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  1. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    Pompeo Says ‘Enormous Evidence’ Connects Virus to Wuhan Lab So interesting times ahead. A containment breach being the actual cause, giving all of China's lying and other antics, will make geopolitics "fun" for a while.
  2. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/politics-podcast-why-forecasting-covid-19-is-harder-than-forecasting-elections/ A good overview on why modeling COVID-19 is hard, why the models are so variable, and why a lot of the reporting going on should be taken with a very large grain of salt.
  3. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic
    Staff: Thread Derail Policy

    Since this thread keeps generating derails and the consequent threadbans, a clarification is in order. This thread is for talking about COVID-19 and the direct consequences of/responses to it. If it has to do with the virus or what is being done (by individuals, corporations, or governments)...
  4. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    Note where I said a payroll tax holiday after the crisis ends. Not right now. Right now it is pointless, straight up giving people money is a better method of solving the issue. Once the crisis ends, however, you want to get people back to work, allow them to rebuild buffers, and allow them to...
  5. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    A one time payment isn't a UBI. And '08 was largely a payroll tax holiday.
  6. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    A means tested UBI won't go away. A payroll tax holiday will. In addition, a payroll tax holiday can be implemented universally and with trivial ease across the nation and will put more money in the pockets of every single person who has a job. The purpose of this is to provide stimulus to the...
  7. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    No, they wouldn't. Note the zero interest loans to the banks & financial institutions to cover the lost revenue from the suspension. You would basically just be freezing the housing market for a few months. The real fun though comes when you prioritize hospital access based on Citizenship ->...
  8. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    Part of the issue is that hospital beds aren't yet flooded (at least not in the US). Once that happens we get to actually see what the real death rate ends up being. Because once the critical care beds are filled, anyone new who actually needs them (either for COVID-19 or for anything else) ends...
  9. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    They are probably lying, but even assuming that they are honest; they are actually able to enforce a quarantine. China was literally welding people into their apartments. Imagine the outcry in the US if the US military had been sent to Washington state upon the first case being detected...
  10. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    The CCP is concerned about the survival of the state. Economic damage, short term or permanent, is a price that they will pay without hesitation if it gives them even a slightly better chance of stabilizing China and keeping it together (with them in charge). Even before the pandemic, China was...
  11. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    It's actually more that they are operating under a different framework than those in the US are operating under. China isn't doing this because it believes it or because it thinks anyone else will or because it doesn't like the US; China is doing it for domestic consumption. COVID-19 has...
  12. Emperor Tippy

    China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

    The information is being provided because of the pointless crazy panic. People are free to express whatever opinions they want and the staff, as such, don't have an official position beyond "this thread is fucking annoying". Even if we did, you are generally free to ignore official TS positions...
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