1. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    Also, if we're judging who's winning based on them pressing civilian vehicles into the fight, Ukraine is resorting to using civilian vehicles now, 3 months into the war, while Russia had thier little tactical Scooby-Doo Vans pressed into service on like day 3. So even by that metric Ukraine is...
  2. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    At this point I'll take that as a complement. Yes, they are. I assume that's what he meant, though it's hard to tell since everyone has been giving weapons to Ukraine. It's just that west delivers them directly while Ukraine has to send a few guys out with tractore to collect the russian gear...
  3. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    I don't believe that's accurate. Given the casualties they've taken, the destroyed equipment, sunken warship, international isolation, and financial damage, there's no way Russia emerges from this with anything close to a win. You appear to be understating how widespread support for Ukraine...
  4. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    Even if the west was responsible for the 2014 coup, which has never been proven to a reasonable degree, that's irrelevant on two counts. First, it wasn't your country they couped, so I don't see how you have grounds to be offended. Secondly, that government is out of power anyway, and Zelensky...
  5. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    So, when faced with two sources, both of which have motive to lie, you, being the anti-propaganda rational poster that you are, elect to distrust both until you get more information, right? Yes, that looks like the words of a man that doesn't take sides and is just demanding a reasonable level...
  6. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    I've seen a number of dead Russian tank crews that would disagree about that. Also, one warehouse getting bombed, even if it was full of weapons (which you don't have sources for), doesn't prove that the majority of aid is being interdicted. You're free to claim that, but I'd point that last...
  7. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    No, because I have no real experience with warfare and am entirely going off of what's reported or explained by other sources. That fact that despite that uncertainty I'm still dubious about Russia's capabilities is almost entirely because the pro russian side has been comprehensively unable to...
  8. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    Ukraine's army has 245,000 guys in it. If this surrender actually happened, which I have doubts about as most of the reports from it are from Russian sources (which have somehow had the final garrison surrender to Russian forces repeatedly this last week), beating 1/245th of your enemies army is...
  9. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    I don't think Russia is doing well even by your standards. Remember two weeks ago ago when Chiron was running around citing that "Armchair Warlord" guy, who was totally sure the next offensive was when Ukraine will fall for sure? Cut to now, and the most significant gain is a russuan missile...
  10. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    What part of "I don't care, I'm saying it this way because it's funny" was not clear the first time?
  11. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    Every Russia ship is old and outdated. I'm not particularly interested in phrasing my statement to be accurate vs demeaning to Russia, "Russia says the Ukrainians have nothing on Russia when it come to blowing up Russian ships" is funnier than the entirely accurate version. Also, these...
  12. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    You do realize that deflecting claims your warship was damaged by enemy action by instead saying that no, you blew it up yourself through your own incompetence in either operating the ship or vetting it's crew makes you look worse, not better, right?
  13. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    I was thinking more like redneck D-Day. "OK, so we need to take these beaches, but we don't have any real landing craft, but we do have this guy's bass boat, and that's basically the same thing. Actually, it's better, because landing craft don't have a sound system. I hope you guys like AC/DC...
  14. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    Looking forward to the "no, we let the Ukrainians blow up our flagship on purpose, because in letting them destroy it we tricked them into expending all thier anti-ship missiles so now they can't sink these civilian fish boats we stole and spray painted a Z onto" narrative.
  15. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    I don't really find "ah, well, we just decided to scrap the doctrine and just do whatever we wanted for the first month, because reasons. But now, after a month of heavy casualties and serious equipment loses, we're going to get serious, any day now we'll finally start winning this, which we...
  16. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    All of that is just generic "bad stuff that happens in every war by every side" stuff, it's inevitable. What you are alleging goes beyond that, because you were suggesting that happens as a matter of policy, not just that it happened somehow.
  17. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    I'm aware Zelensky banned opposition parties on the basis of them being basically Russian proxies, don't know if that's true or just political opportunism, could be either way. But he just banned the parties, as far as I know he didn't arrest their leaderships or act against there personal in...
  18. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    We don't know exactly when the Russians started shooting people or under what circumstances. Ukraine doesn't disappear people to my knowledge, nor are POWs are mistreated as a matter of policy (it certainly happens, it's inevitable in any way, but it's Ukrainian policy to discourage this kind...
  19. Battlegrinder

    Armchair General's DonbAss Derailed Discussion Thread (Topics Include History, Traps, and the Ongoing Slavic Civil War plus much much more)

    No, not like those, in fact. The first two were just propaganda inventions, they never happened and the dispute at the time, if any, was if they did happen at all (The Gulf incident was two attacks, one of which did happen and one of which didn't, but I think the 2nd attack is more "jumping at...
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