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  1. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    So is Eurovision Song Contest: The Story of Fire Saga. What's your point?
  2. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    So, there's some news about the post office dispute. A federal judge has ordered the postal service halt or reverse a number of new procedures that have been put in place, but the logic used sounds incredibly dubious. Essentially, she seems to be saying that because Trump attacked the idea of...
  3. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    Huh. I'd eyeballed the gap and it looked the right had shifted less than the left, but I didn't know it was buy that much.
  4. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    In fairness to Fox, there has been a shift: However, said shift has been both sides moving away from the center, not just one, and largely took place after 2004 and not 2002 (I'm going to say that third graders, Fox included, are not exactly reliable sources when it comes to politics), and I...
  5. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    I'd argue it's simple cowardice, much as it is for the other side. Remember how the actual violence dropped off right after Charlottesville, right after something happened that clearly showed everyone there that there were actually consequences to what they were doing, that this wasn't just a...
  6. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    You don't need to have a central leadership structure in order to be an organization, there is such a thing as decentralized leadership, which is what antifa has with each cell doing it's own thing and sometimes communicating or coordinating with other cells. Why are you so invested in saying...
  7. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    Local cells certainly have leaders and organizers, and even if they didn't, you don't need leaders to be a definably organization. You'll just be a poorly lead and non-standard one. For example, BLM and Occupy both lacked any kind of central leadership or recognizable backing, but both were...
  8. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    No it doesn't. Both groups are shitty assholes and need to be stopped before things get worse, constantly pulling the argumentum ad Heyer to go "but, but, but they're worse" is frankly just a distraction tactic to try and draw attention away from antifa's misdeeds. There is a line, and both...
  9. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    Define "so many other people", because from what I've seen the only people who repeat antifa's bullshit are either antifa sympathizers or the kind of hateful dipshit that does enjoy seeing people they dislike get beaten. And while people like that are certainly very loud and very visable online...
  10. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    The fact that this kind of violence didn't happen before antifa started running around, and that it doesn't happen when they don't show up, would seem to strongly suggest that the far right is not responsible for the sudden rise in political violence. Edit: Also, Ricard Spencer saying it's hard...
  11. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    Since this post appears to have started the whole antifa morality debate, I figured it was the best point to start with a rebuttal. Antifa can't take credit for "defending" people from violence they provoked in the first place. Up until the last couple years, political rallies in the US were...
  12. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    Given he's consistently polling significantly worse than Biden, I'm not seeing why he's such a great candidate. He certainly has a loud and devoted support base, but volume doesn't translate into real numbers.
  13. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    Bernie lost the primary to, as you said, "literally the most hated woman in America", and in addition to that the GOP had actual bad shit that can be pinned on him as opposed to Hillary's record of always being in favor of whatever it's fashionable to be in favor of. I fail to see why you think...
  14. Battlegrinder

    Who else dreads this year?

    The mass freakouts after Trump won more or less burned out my ability to care, or my desire to try and debate with other people on hot button issues, at least online. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of drama and insanity next year (hell, there's going go be a lot of drama and insanity...
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