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  1. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    Oh, I totally agree there. Slate is garbage, and they talk about the increasing fidelity among male relationships like its a bad thing. They can't be seen as condemning male partner swapping, and being happy that people aren't cheating. Oh, I agree that male gay relationships are more likely to...
  2. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    I know, but I'm not sure if this is one of the studies they did, or a study they referenced. From the phrasing of the article, I expect the second: EDIT: I checked the book out from the Internet Archive, and I could find no reference to it in the chapter on homosexual partners, nor any...
  3. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    I would say that they kept the union part, the commitment part, and are working on the raising kids part of marriage. The god part was tossed years ago by liberals. The movement has been at times hostile to marriage as a thing, but that's not what I'm talking about precisely. What I'm focusing...
  4. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    For much of the LGBT movement, that's where T's were. Just happy to integrate, and knew that in the places where they couldn't legally transition, same-sex marriage would give them a work around. But once Marriage equality was won, the activists used the T's as the way to continue being...
  5. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    I mean, I thought getting married, buying a house, raising children, holding down a job, and filling gender roles were traditional/conservative goals. The point of the LGBT movement (up until fairly recently) was allowing a small percentage of the population (about 5ish%, though I've seen...
  6. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    I don't know of any off the top of my head. But the infidelity statistic you cited makes me think it was some time around the 60s or before, when it really was that bad. Note then that even having a relationship was an achievement in and of itself, as opposed to being homeless and having sex...
  7. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    Not really. First, the book your source cites was published in 1994, citing a study (I don't know which, as they don't cite the study, just the book) that could have happened decades before that. As I acknowledge later in my post: this is a very accurate depiction of how gay relationships used...
  8. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    You're slighty off about the order here. Lesbians are being actively pushed out right now. Arielle Scarcella talks a lot about this, but basically trans trenders are saying that not wanting to have sex with trans woman is transphobic. Even if they have a penis. And a beard. The tag line for this...
  9. Abhorsen

    The LGBT and the Right

    So this will sound weird, but what the average LGBT person wants out of the LGBT political movement is ultimately conservative. Here me out. We want basically 3 things: 1) The right to marry, form a family, and be less bothered by the government in private life. 2) The ability to work and have a...
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