Serious question about anti-Semitism.

Scottty

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The ADL isn't a paramilitary organization like the IRA, with a history of committing terroristic acts (including outright killing people) in an attempt to achieve its goals. There's simply no comparison between the two organizations.

If you think that Jews haven't ever had anything equivalent to the IRA, you might want to read up on some early 20th-century history - concerning matters in the Middle-East, when the British Empire took over certain places from the defunct Ottoman Empire.
 

GoldRanger

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If you think that Jews haven't ever had anything equivalent to the IRA, you might want to read up on some early 20th-century history - concerning matters in the Middle-East, when the British Empire took over certain places from the defunct Ottoman Empire.
This, of course, has absolutely nothing to do with Jews in the USA and their supposed "influence".
 

Terthna

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If you think that Jews haven't ever had anything equivalent to the IRA, you might want to read up on some early 20th-century history - concerning matters in the Middle-East, when the British Empire took over certain places from the defunct Ottoman Empire.
I am well aware that they have; but as far as I am aware, the ADL has never been one of them.
 
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There's AIPAC, the ADL, B'ni B'ev(?), and other legal organizations, lobbies and the like.

Not all political power is expressed via guns alone, lawyers, lobbyists and media attaches matter too.
 

Arch Dornan

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There's AIPAC, the ADL, B'ni B'ev(?), and other legal organizations, lobbies and the like.

Not all political power is expressed via guns alone, lawyers, lobbyists and media attaches matter too.
How else does any nation get some policy done?

Just recently there's the China shit and Huawei from all the Chinese influence with the WHO throat deep inside China.

Then there's middle eastern influence particularly from Saudi Arabia thanks to their oil who once had countries twisted by the balls when OPEC was raising a tantrum in that oil crisis.

And these are the most current ones to be aware of. Others are more obscure unless I dig further.
 

Doomsought

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Are you seriously telling me that Jewish-Americans did not give any support to the Zionist cause, like Irish-Americans did for the cause of their homeland becoming independent from the British Empire?
Well, the wealthy ones seem to hate Israel more than anyone else, though I suspect they are Jewish in race only. Who do you think weaponized the ADL against the enemies of globalism?
 

The Name of Love

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When it comes to anti-Semitism, the dividing line ought to be these things:

1. It's false that there is some "gene" or inherent trait that causes Jews to act as these "subversives" or "parasites."

2. It's immoral to harm the life or health of a Jew because of their race or religion.

3. It's immoral to interfere with the practices of their traditional faith.

4. It's okay to criticize the actions of individual Jews or of Jewish culture.
 
Thing is the term Jew can mean one or more of three things, Jew by means of birth, jew by means of religion, and jew by means of culture. Granted I'm not a Jew, so anyone who is can correct me, but it seems like the reason why a lot of Jewish people by culture tend to do well in the business world is because the culture puts emphasis on inheritance and good stewardship, and people of all nationalities have good and bad actors. Problem is being racist is easy.
 

The Name of Love

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Thing is the term Jew can mean one or more of three things, Jew by means of birth, jew by means of religion, and jew by means of culture. Granted I'm not a Jew, so anyone who is can correct me, but it seems like the reason why a lot of Jewish people by culture tend to do well in the business world is because the culture puts emphasis on inheritance and good stewardship, and people of all nationalities have good and bad actors. Problem is being racist is easy.

Well, even liberals admit that Jews have higher IQs due to genetics. The problem is what H. P. Lovecraft called their "culture-tradition." To paraphrase his point: if you were to have a bunch of people who had a different culture from you come to your country, become rich, and then use their money, what sort of effect do you think this will have?

I'd suppose, for one thing, if there were a lot of rich Jews, then they'd make sure that anti-Semitism was widely seen as one of the most vile things possible, above other crimes. One can simply look at the page on the US State Department's website Defining Anti-Semitism (yes, they seriously have this. No, they don't have this for other racial or ethnic groups). This page lists such things as "accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations" or "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis" or even saying that the Jews control pretty much anything as "anti-Semitism." They also include "double standards" regarding the state of Israel as being anti-Semitic.

It's far too broad a definition, in my honest opinion. Certainly, we should make it illegal for people to call for the genociding of Jews or whatever, but this definition seems to imply that criticizing the wrongdoing of individual Jews is racist. Somehow.
 
Well, even liberals admit that Jews have higher IQs due to genetics. The problem is what H. P. Lovecraft called their "culture-tradition." To paraphrase his point: if you were to have a bunch of people who had a different culture from you come to your country, become rich, and then use their money, what sort of effect do you think this will have?

I'd suppose, for one thing, if there were a lot of rich Jews, then they'd make sure that anti-Semitism was widely seen as one of the most vile things possible, above other crimes. One can simply look at the page on the US State Department's website Defining Anti-Semitism (yes, they seriously have this. No, they don't have this for other racial or ethnic groups). This page lists such things as "accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations" or "drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis" or even saying that the Jews control pretty much anything as "anti-Semitism." They also include "double standards" regarding the state of Israel as being anti-Semitic.

It's far too broad a definition, in my honest opinion. Certainly, we should make it illegal for people to call for the genociding of Jews or whatever, but this definition seems to imply that criticizing the wrongdoing of individual Jews is racist. Somehow.


While I think hate crimes are wrong an unfair (Racism is racism no need to have a special class of racism) I think white people are falling into the same trap the jews fell into a long time ago when they demanded God grant them a king so they could be like thier pagan neighbors, except for us it's the trap of "Why can't we have our own ethnostate we want to be a sacred people too!" Despite the fact that we oddly enough mostly identify with a reliogion that claims that the old covenent has been fuffiled and done away with the death of Jesus and that people of all nations will be with God in the kingdom of heaven. Still Envy is the root of many (If not all) evil and it is a powerful drug.

but still if there are bad actors, I think they should be criticized. I have a hard time beliving all parts of our government is part of some kind of cult though. XD
 

The Name of Love

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While I think hate crimes are wrong an unfair (Racism is racism no need to have a special class of racism) I think white people are falling into the same trap the jews fell into a long time ago when they demanded God grant them a king so they could be like thier pagan neighbors, except for us it's the trap of "Why can't we have our own ethnostate we want to be a sacred people too!" Despite the fact that we oddly enough mostly identify with a reliogion that claims that the old covenent has been fuffiled and done away with the death of Jesus and that people of all nations will be with God in the kingdom of heaven. Still Envy is the root of many (If not all) evil and it is a powerful drug.

but still if there are bad actors, I think they should be criticized. I have a hard time beliving all parts of our government is part of some kind of cult though. XD
Jews aren't the "sacred people" anymore.

Well, I believe there's some cultist shit that's a part of our government, but I don't think it's particularly Jewish.
 
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To give a primer, there are two general strains of thought with regards to the Jews from WNs/Neo Nazis.

1. Firstly there is Kevin Macdonald's belief the Jews are predisposed biologically towards subversive and parasitic behavior. They just can't help but tear down the society in which they live.
2. Malevolence. Either due to biological ends, or spiritual ends. The Jew is the first enemy of the white race and his reasons for wanting the white race destroyed vary-from envy, or ancient religious bigotry(Christianity is Edom), or Satanic malice. Destroy the Jew the Neo Nazi argues, and you can deal with other racial enemies with little trouble.

The first one is generally what you see among more restrained and erudite White Nationalists and Race Realists, and the latter is what you'll find Neo Nazis on Gab, Bitchute, or I dunno? Stormfront, the Daily Stormer, and so on argue.

This usually leads to two separate ideas for dealing with the "Jewish Question", the former is basically forced repatriation to Israel and seizing their wealth, so they don't use it for subversive ends.

The latter is best summed up from a line in the Turner Diaries, "If we survive, no Jew will...anywhere, we'll hunt down the last of Satan's spawn". No mercy, no pity, finishing Hitler's aims.

So whenever the topic of anti Semitism comes up, its good to be familiar with what attitude(at least in right leaning circles) your reading/encountering.
 
Jews aren't the "sacred people" anymore.

many of anti-semites have not gotten that memo.

Well, I believe there's some cultist shit that's a part of our government, but I don't think it's particularly Jewish.


our politicians are too childish to make an organized cult. Do I think they have bad intentions? oh big time, but it's more in that childish entitiled veruca salt kind of way.

Our rulers in a nutshell:





honestly that makes it worse.
 
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The Name of Love

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our politicians are too childish to make an organized cult. Do I think they have bad intentions? oh big time, but it's more in that childish entitiled veruca salt kind of way.

Our rulers in a nutshell:
Look up things like the Finders and Project MKUltra and tell me that it isn't a little bit suspicious.

Going back to anti-Semitism, I think the main reason for it is simple: Jews just so happen to have been doing more bad things per capita than non-Jews have been, and this leads people to blame all Jews for the actions of a few. Simple, open-and-shut case.
 

Doomsought

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Going back to anti-Semitism, I think the main reason for it is simple: Jews just so happen to have been doing more bad things per capita than non-Jews have been, and this leads people to blame all Jews for the actions of a few. Simple, open-and-shut case.
Not bad things, just more noticeable things, like banking. Apex fallacy leads to them getting singled out.
 
Look up things like the Finders and Project MKUltra and tell me that it isn't a little bit suspicious.

Going back to anti-Semitism, I think the main reason for it is simple: Jews just so happen to have been doing more bad things per capita than non-Jews have been, and this leads people to blame all Jews for the actions of a few. Simple, open-and-shut case.


Ok MKultra I think is standard "We have an idea....how do we weaponize it?" crap it's evil but sadly not new. The finders thing however, to that I say three words. "What...the....heck?!?" How do these people remain in power? How do they even get into power? I would say this superstitious nonsense is dangerous, but that should go without saying.

Note to self. When the politicians accuse us normies of satanism, it's probably them self-projecting.
 

The Name of Love

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Not bad things, just more noticeable things, like banking. Apex fallacy leads to them getting singled out.
No, bad things. I've actually talked to actual anti-Semites before, so I know their rhetoric. If you want to know their rhetoric, check out the Noticer account on Telegram. He doesn't talk about how envious of Jews he is. He literally explains his views on a post he made February 13, 2020:

Many have asked why I chose Cicero to be The Noticer symbol. This timeless quote from the Roman statesman provides the only explanation needed

“A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly against the city. But the traitor moves among those within the gates freely, his sly whispers rustling through all alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears no traitor; he speaks in the accents familiar to his victim, and he wears their face and their garments and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation; he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city; he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared. The traitor is the plague”

Their entire rhetoric consists of "all Jews are traitors/subversives. They have an irrational hatred of us and want to undermine us and destroy us. They must be stamped out before they kill us all." This is the rhetoric of every anti-Semite, from Adolf Hitler to modern Internet anons.
 

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