Transinsanity thread

Yinko

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There was russian orthodox sect which did it - but for salvation,not becoming womans.
To be honest,i prefer them to those trans.
The Heaven's Gate cult also did it, but it was to ward off new membership once they thought the end time was too close to be able to convince new people to go through with the ritual suicide. Kind of funny how this went from "so extreme that only a handful of obscure religious groups and eunuchs made for political reasons ever did it" to now.
 

ATP

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The Heaven's Gate cult also did it, but it was to ward off new membership once they thought the end time was too close to be able to convince new people to go through with the ritual suicide. Kind of funny how this went from "so extreme that only a handful of obscure religious groups and eunuchs made for political reasons ever did it" to now.

Well,one polish writer once joked,that if we have media working slovly on group of monks,they could turn them into cannibals.
Forget which one,as usual.
 

Yinko

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So, apparently, we've got so many pronouns now that they're moving to ban all pronouns because nobody can keep them all straight, or something.



I find it a bit hilarious that they've managed to reinvent the nickname except now it's a replacement for overcomplicated pronoun schemes.

Huh. It's gone so far that I am actually kind of in favor of this. I mean, grammatically it's still a stretch: "Elizabeth went to Elizabeth's house where Elizabeth ate Elizabeth's dinner" clunky and time consuming but at least not actually inaccurate. So... a step in the right direction for all the wrong reasons?
 

Cherico

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Huh. It's gone so far that I am actually kind of in favor of this. I mean, grammatically it's still a stretch: "Elizabeth went to Elizabeth's house where Elizabeth ate Elizabeth's dinner" clunky and time consuming but at least not actually inaccurate. So... a step in the right direction for all the wrong reasons?

I think we all saw this coming eventually people will say fuck it and not give a damn about what these madman demand.
 

Scooby Doo

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I just wanna know who the hell is making all these pronoun rules?

All I see is randos making these videos, like they're not a governing authority just some random tik toker.
 

Yinko

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Back when they were arguing that it was from birth, during the 90's and early 00's, wasn't the stat closer to 3-5%? Of course, even then there was enough evidence to show that people could develop these behaviors as seen with children who are sexually abused, or with female friend-groups who all change their identity at the same time.

Epigenetics probably plays a huge role in this (no set of genes gurantees it, but they might make the odds higher and then environment would either flip that switch or not), but then you look at the porn trends for feminization or trap, and the counter trends for people who hate that they are addicted to those genres? Training is definitely a component. One can't even claim that training and expectation could not be that powerful, since in recent years it has been said to be the cause for mood swings during menstruation as well as effectively the entire experience of being "high" that marihuana provides.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
There are plenty of people who are born that way. What that survey is more indicative of is the grooming effort that has made it trendy, essentially, not to mention how they keep expanding the definition of what fits in their alphabet soup.
 

DarthOne

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There are plenty of people who are born that way. What that survey is more indicative of is the grooming effort that has made it trendy, essentially, not to mention how they keep expanding the definition of what fits in their alphabet soup.

I’m not willing to give them much benefit of the doubt anymore to the first. And yes to the second, more or less. I almost feel sorry for them for when the backlash hits. Providing it doesn’t end up with Turbo-Hitler in charge or something. Then we’re all going to be screwed.

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ATP

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Being a part of the Alphabet Soup Community is the latest fad. I guarantee you a lot of these teens are completely straight, but "being" gay, bi, or a transtrender gives them social clout.

Just like in Poland after 1956 20% of population supported soviets without beliving in their shit - only to get money and positions to rule over catholics.
 

Marduk

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A very calculated lie, designed to elevate sexual preference to the same level as race and gender as an 'immutable characteristic.'

It's not fair to discriminate against people for things they can't control now, isn't it?
There are plenty of people who are born that way. What that survey is more indicative of is the grooming effort that has made it trendy, essentially, not to mention how they keep expanding the definition of what fits in their alphabet soup.
Fraternal birth order effect is a thing. Which is something that does happen before birth technically, but isn't strictly genetic.
Funny enough, it also demonstrates that there are have to be many different biological routes to the same forms of atypical sexual tendencies.
The Bogaert et al. (3) report also provides additional support for biological theories of sexual orientation. Note that the FBO effect accounts for only a maximum of 29% of gay males, or possibly a bit more if one assumes that a fraction of the primiparous mothers who
Add to that the well observed ability of traumatic events in childhood, especially sexual abuse, to correlate with development of many types of unusual sexual behaviors both more and less illegal, and here you have a psychological, post-birth route to it too. Not to mention that we even have historical and current society wide cases with certain odd cultures, like ancient Greece and modern Afghanistan, that have an unusual numbers of men attracted to boys.

Between the "abuse effect" and the cultural differences, i think it's established that it is possible to manipulate the sexuality of a person after birth, even though the exact mechanisms aren't well explored, their reliability is hard to quantify, and researching it further is both politically and ethically challenging... though it has to be done as early as possible for effectiveness, early teens at the latest, which does raise certain alarm bells with initiatives like early childhood sexual education and drag queen story hour, while also having implications for discussions around related topics, like conversion therapy generally not working (generally too late), and the leftist meme of "if being gay is a choice then choose to be gay to prove it" (it's not exactly choice to be abused and you're probably too old).
And then there are the more and less famous cases of adult men, sometimes pretty old and normal, with a wife and children, suddenly deciding that they want to be a woman, which is even beyond the above pattern.
 

DarthOne

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The vast majority of leftists would just say that acceptance has increased the rate at which people come out.

They would. Which won’t hold up to scrutiny and will backfire all the harder once reality sets in for the poor bastards being mutilated thanks to a warped idea of mental health and sexuality by a medical industry that just sees them as a source of money.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Fraternal birth order effect is a thing. Which is something that does happen before birth technically, but isn't strictly genetic.
Funny enough, it also demonstrates that there are have to be many different biological routes to the same forms of atypical sexual tendencies.

Add to that the well observed ability of traumatic events in childhood, especially sexual abuse, to correlate with development of many types of unusual sexual behaviors both more and less illegal, and here you have a psychological, post-birth route to it too. Not to mention that we even have historical and current society wide cases with certain odd cultures, like ancient Greece and modern Afghanistan, that have an unusual numbers of men attracted to boys.

Between the "abuse effect" and the cultural differences, i think it's established that it is possible to manipulate the sexuality of a person after birth, even though the exact mechanisms aren't well explored, their reliability is hard to quantify, and researching it further is both politically and ethically challenging... though it has to be done as early as possible for effectiveness, early teens at the latest, which does raise certain alarm bells with initiatives like early childhood sexual education and drag queen story hour, while also having implications for discussions around related topics, like conversion therapy generally not working (generally too late), and the leftist meme of "if being gay is a choice then choose to be gay to prove it" (it's not exactly choice to be abused and you're probably too old).
And then there are the more and less famous cases of adult men, sometimes pretty old and normal, with a wife and children, suddenly deciding that they want to be a woman, which is even beyond the above pattern.
I think @Abhorsen might have a thing or two to say on this topic.
 

colorles

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Fraternal birth order effect is a thing. Which is something that does happen before birth technically, but isn't strictly genetic.
Funny enough, it also demonstrates that there are have to be many different biological routes to the same forms of atypical sexual tendencies.

Add to that the well observed ability of traumatic events in childhood, especially sexual abuse, to correlate with development of many types of unusual sexual behaviors both more and less illegal, and here you have a psychological, post-birth route to it too. Not to mention that we even have historical and current society wide cases with certain odd cultures, like ancient Greece and modern Afghanistan, that have an unusual numbers of men attracted to boys.

Between the "abuse effect" and the cultural differences, i think it's established that it is possible to manipulate the sexuality of a person after birth, even though the exact mechanisms aren't well explored, their reliability is hard to quantify, and researching it further is both politically and ethically challenging... though it has to be done as early as possible for effectiveness, early teens at the latest, which does raise certain alarm bells with initiatives like early childhood sexual education and drag queen story hour, while also having implications for discussions around related topics, like conversion therapy generally not working (generally too late), and the leftist meme of "if being gay is a choice then choose to be gay to prove it" (it's not exactly choice to be abused and you're probably too old).
And then there are the more and less famous cases of adult men, sometimes pretty old and normal, with a wife and children, suddenly deciding that they want to be a woman, which is even beyond the above pattern.

Sex is just a drug hit. If children can be manipulated, at a young enough age, to become attracted to "such and such" and start having "drug hits" to "such and such" - especially if this is their very first sexual experiences - their attraction to "such and such" will be reinforced by the "drug hits". The men and women manipulating young boys and girls, are mostly themselves manipulated cogs in a machine being worked by the architects that know very well what they are doing.

As to the bolded: I suspect most cultures that exploit boys in such a way, do so because of the relative lack of social consequences for abusing boys. Girls are traditionally cherished as virgins and are, thus, guarded heavily by society. Boys? not so much. A girl is raped and her virginity taken? the rapist is likely to be castrated and put to the sword. A boy is raped and his virginity taken? That boy is no longer a man. Nobody gives a fuck. And because of this, men in many different cultures throughout history, have targeted boys - due simply to the lack of consequences towards doing so. That, and it is a form of dominance for some men to rape other men. Very common in war, actually. It is seen as a complete showing of dominance and a way to break another man in ways that are not blatently obvious or visible, like physical torture. Savage, but common stuff.







 

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