China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Cherico

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In all likelyhood you could have a smoking gun, and jack shit would happen to Phizer, at least at the moment their untouchable, however the structor that makes them such is weakening and all of the issues just are not going away.
 

Jormungandr

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They don't even know what the vax's are doing to T-cell response, which is the sort of thing proper clinical trials would have documented.

I said back when the vaccines were first being rushed onto "market" that the development cycle was too short for it to have passed trials -- NPC's on Spacebattles argued against me, saying that the vaxx was well within a plausible development and clinical trial timeframe for it to be safe (despite said time being only a year or so).

I'm fucking laughing my arse off in a grim, darkly amused way now that I was completely right. It was rushed and fucking untested.
 

posh-goofiness

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Normal drug development cycle length is a decade. Multi-year animal trials followed by multi-year human trials. Which was the justification I gave anyone when they asked me why I wasn't getting the "vaccine". Course, then the government contractor mandate happened and I had to find a new job. But hey, at least no one could actually dispute me on the facts.
 

Jormungandr

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Normal drug development cycle length is a decade. Multi-year animal trials followed by multi-year human trials. Which was the justification I gave anyone when they asked me why I wasn't getting the "vaccine". Course, then the government contractor mandate happened and I had to find a new job. But hey, at least no one could actually dispute me on the facts.
Yep! Clinical trial after clinical trial -- none of those occured with the vax. At worst, they falsified the data.

But, you know, we were "conspiracy theorists". 🤔 Those cunts can eat crow now, if they're not arrogant to admit they were fucking wrong.
 

Rocinante

Russian Bot
Founder
I'm concerned that we are essentially running a giant world-wide gain of function project by having all these people filled with half working vaccines.

They're putting pressure on and training the virus.

I am concerned that this could make the virus far more dangerous. Even for those of us who are unvaccinated.

This so called vaccine should have never happened.

At least now a lot of normies are waking up. Even though it may be far too late. Look at the numbers of people getting rhe bivalent boosters. Not many. This shows that the normies are aware of the problems now. Now it's time for them to quit being silent cowards about it.

Look, if you come out and say "I was wrong, you were right. I'm sorry." A lot of us are willing to forgive.

But as we all saw from that covid amnesty article, they just want the forgiveness, without having to actually make an apology
 

Jormungandr

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I'm concerned that we are essentially running a giant world-wide gain of function project by having all these people filled with half working vaccines.

They're putting pressure on and training the virus.

I am concerned that this could make the virus far more dangerous. Even for those of us who are unvaccinated.

This so called vaccine should have never happened.

At least now a lot of normies are waking up. Even though it may be far too late. Look at the numbers of people getting rhe bivalent boosters. Not many. This shows that the normies are aware of the problems now. Now it's time for them to quit being silent cowards about it.

Look, if you come out and say "I was wrong, you were right. I'm sorry." A lot of us are willing to forgive.

But as we all saw from that covid amnesty article, they just want the forgiveness, without having to actually make an apology
Given how venomous people were to their own friends and family over this, I very much doubt that.

We're spiteful for very good reasons. Fuck forgiveness.
 

Rocinante

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Given how venomous people were to their own friends and family over this, I very much doubt that.

We're spiteful for very good reasons. Fuck forgiveness.
Oh I'm with you.

The leaders of this charge deserve NO forgiveness.

I have lost friends over this. We will probably never be friends again.

I can also see that if I wasn't the type to follow alternative media, I would have come to very different conclusions than I had. I can see how easily I would have been one of them. I can see how operating under their presuppositions that I'd be mad at those resisting the vaccines, too.

I can see how easily I could have been one of those people. So With that in mind, if one is truly repentant, and admits they were wrong, and provides a true apology, I will reluctantly accept.

Reluctantly being the key word. It'll take time to fully forgive them. We are a big society though, and we do need to heal and move forward. This is going to require them repenting, and us accepting their apologies, otherwise there is no way forward.

As of now? I am still in rne camp of "fuck em," because they aren't repentant. They want the forgiveness without the apology. Fuck em.

Also, I very clearly want to point out that I am not counting the leaders amongst those to be forgiven. People like Fauci, media personalities and politicians who pushed this shit should be behind bars. I'm talking about your neighbors, your kid's friend's parents. Distant or close family members. Friendships that have been ruined. Etc.

If one of my ex friends came to me, said "you were right all along, I'm so sorry, please forgive me," I would tell them "it's not going to be that simple. But let's work on it."

We need to be willing to forgive to move on. They need to be willing to actually apologize too, though. Instead what we have are a bunch of normies who have woke up and are refusing boosters, but STILL STAYING SILENT. They don't get forgiveness until they change their ways.
 

*THASF*

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Obozny
Normal drug development cycle length is a decade. Multi-year animal trials followed by multi-year human trials. Which was the justification I gave anyone when they asked me why I wasn't getting the "vaccine". Course, then the government contractor mandate happened and I had to find a new job. But hey, at least no one could actually dispute me on the facts.

The clinical trials and FDA approval were faked. Neither were necessary. They were complete theater. That's why Pfizer said that the fraud in the trials didn't count, because "the government was aware of the fraud". The vaccines were acquired by the US DOD under the Other Transaction Authority as prototypes, which means they didn't need trials or FDA approval of any kind.



EDIT:

Katherine Watt explains:

 
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Terthna

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I'm concerned that we are essentially running a giant world-wide gain of function project by having all these people filled with half working vaccines.

They're putting pressure on and training the virus.

I am concerned that this could make the virus far more dangerous. Even for those of us who are unvaccinated.

This so called vaccine should have never happened.

At least now a lot of normies are waking up. Even though it may be far too late. Look at the numbers of people getting rhe bivalent boosters. Not many. This shows that the normies are aware of the problems now. Now it's time for them to quit being silent cowards about it.

Look, if you come out and say "I was wrong, you were right. I'm sorry." A lot of us are willing to forgive.

But as we all saw from that covid amnesty article, they just want the forgiveness, without having to actually make an apology
Seems to me what they want is for people to sooth their egos and apologize to them.
 

Zyobot

Just a time-traveling robot stranded on Earth.
Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but in light of @Jormungandr and @Rocinante commenting on it:




Honestly, I dare Oster to try and refute Killian on this. Because even though she can't (and almost certainly won't), I'm very curious as to what she or her fellow lockdowners might say, however feeble their counterarguments are. :rolleyes:
 

*THASF*

The Halo and Sonic Fan
Obozny
Here's Brook Jackson's explanation of the OTA:





Jesus H. Christ. With how lax the requirements are for the DOD's OTA contracts for "prototypes", Pfizer and Moderna would have literally been well within the law to do no clinical trials, seek no EUA from the FDA, and to give the government actual dog shit in a brown paper bag. :ROFLMAO:
 

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