Nord Stream 1 and 2 Attacked

Robovski

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From the BBC: Nord Stream: Ukraine accuses Russia of pipeline terror attack

"Seismologists reported underwater blasts before the leaks emerged.
"There is no doubt that these were explosions," said Bjorn Lund of Sweden's National Seismology Centre, as quoted by local media.
The operators of Nord Stream 2 warned of a loss of pressure in the pipeline on Monday afternoon. That led to a warning from Danish authorities that ships should avoid the area near the island of Bornholm.

The operator of Nord Stream 1 said the undersea lines had simultaneously sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day."

From Not The Bee: JUST IN: Authorities say someone has blown up the Nord Stream pipelines from Russia to Western Europe

"Winter is gonna be COLD this year in Europe.

Energy prices are already unbearable and now they couldn't get all the gas they needed even if they wanted. Their energy security has been destroyed."
 
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Sobek

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I wouldn't put it past Biden's bosses to sabotage the Nord Stream. If Russia was gonna do it wouldn't they do it in a subtler way? Or do it on their side of the border/inside the Russian Federation?

Do we have a propper explanation of it already?
 
Batrix2070

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Sobek said:
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I wouldn't put it past Biden's bosses to sabotage the Nord Stream. If Russia was gonna do it wouldn't they do it in a subtler way? Or do it on their side of the border/inside the Russian Federation?

Do we have a propper explanation of it already?
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No, but it's not hard to guess. The Americans, with the hands of the Poles, blew up both NS, with the Americans taking the suspicion and Poland sitting quietly, well, except maybe for our dear ex-minister of foreign affairs known for being extremely submissive to america.
And all this so that a moral superpower like Germany does not have to be tempted by unworthy deeds.
 
StormEagle

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This could have been the Russians, but I don’t personally think it was.

It’s bad timing for one. For maximum impact of a gas shutdown, the Russians would have wanted to do it sometime in October. When winter was approaching or the first real cold snap had already happened. Such timing would have provided the most misery to the average euro, and might have brought them to the negotiating table as far as sanctions go.

The location and actually damaging the pipeline also doesn’t make sense. The Russians could have just turned off the gas flow on their end. It doesn’t make sense for them to actually damage their pipeline. The fact it was damaged in a place that they wouldn’t be able to fix it quickly or easily also doesn’t make sense.

This smells like western intelligence agencies mucking about. The problem is figuring out which ones.
 
Bacle

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The Whispering Monk said:
The lines were pretty much shut down anyway so very little gas was coming to Europe through them.

and then there's this:

Poland, Denmark and Norway open new gas pipeline under Baltic Sea | Ghana News Agency (gna.org.gh)

Huh. That seems like oddly fortuitous timing...
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As well, the attack on the pipeline by the Russians means they cannot be 'punished' for breaking remaining contractual obligations around the pipelines and deliveries in them, which Moscow was facing before this.

Now Moscow can get out of any contractual penalties around the pipeline by claiming they would have fulfilled the contracts if not for the blasts.

The US could shut down those pipelines using economic methods and was on the verge of doing so, while still forcing Russia to fulfill the existing contracts, and just today Russia said they were shutting off more gas deliveries to Europe, which seems sus timing. Blowing the pipelines, at the same time we have forces in the area, would be amateur hour bullshit, and those forces have been in the Baltic's for a while now; they were likely tracking the Russians as they did stuff, which explains the helo's looking at that area before.
 
The One Char

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Bacle said:
As well, the attack on the pipeline by the Russians means they cannot be 'punished' for breaking remaining contractual obligations around the pipelines and deliveries in them, which Moscow was facing before this.

Now Moscow can get out of any contractual penalties around the pipeline by claiming they would have fulfilled the contracts if not for the blasts.

The US could shut down those pipelines using economic methods and was on the verge of doing so, while still forcing Russia to fulfill the existing contracts, and just today Russia said they were shutting off more gas deliveries to Europe, which seems sus timing. Blowing the pipelines, at the same time we have forces in the area, would be amateur hour bullshit, and those forces have been in the Baltic's for a while now; they were likely tracking the Russians as they did stuff, which explains the helo's looking at that area before.
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That is the most delusional thing I have heard today. Your mind has been eaten by the "Russia!" brainbug. Why? Because if Russia's not at fault then you're the bad guy, and that must not be.
 
Bacle

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The One Char said:
That is the most delusional thing I have heard today. Your mind has been eaten by the "Russia!" brainbug. Why? Because if Russia's not at fault then you're the bad guy, and that must not be.
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No, the brain bug is "The West is controlled by globohomo/the Left, Russia is so 'trad' and blameless for this war happening." shit that parts of the Right have fallen into.

Also, it's not Ukraine using nuclear power plants as arty bases, it's not Ukraine that used Chernobyl as an armored corridor and then gave conscripts old pre-accident maps that caused them to dig foxholes in some of the most radioactive ground on earth, it's not Ukraine that is forcing 'referendums' at machinegun point to justify more nuclear threats, and it's is not Ukraine which began a war of aggression to 'recreate the USSR'.

But thanks for confirming that you are another person in the 'neocon/Right Wing-to-Vatnik' pipeline, and thus can be safely mocked and derided like many of the other psuedo-Vatnik's here.
 
Bacle

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The One Char said:
Look man, I'd rather be a so-called "Vatnik" than on your side because in your heart you're still a leftist and a democrat, your opinions are "formed" on the basis of what makes you a "Good Guy".
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No, my opinions are formed based on what I know and believe; if I cared about being the 'good guy' to the Left and Dems, I would have never come out for the GOP at all.

I also listen to more than just the Right-Wing echochamber, so I know how things look from the outside, even if not going along with every bit of the Right Wing narrative gets me labelled a 'Leftist' by a bunch of neocon/paleocon fools.

Unlike some idiots here, I know more than one thing can be true at once. It can be true the Left and Dems are insane and corrupt, having stolen the 2020 election with the help of RINO/Uniparty fucks in DC, and that at the same time Russia's invasion of Ukraine is unjust and that Ukraine deserves western aid.
 
Bacle

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The One Char said:
And Russia wouldn't have attacked the pipelines because it's in their best interest to be able turn them back on. it's not the US's interests. Don't want the Germans getting cold feet.
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This operates on the idea that Russia is a 'rational actor', when the last half-year shows they are very much not.

It also relies on the assumption that Russia didn't blow this specifically to try to throw blame on the US.

But you still think I'm a Leftist, so you obviously don't have a great grasp on reality over your preferred narrative.
 
The Whispering Monk

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@Bacle I hadn't considered the contractual aspects of the pipeline in regards to Russia. So that's a possible motive for Russia to have done this.

The One Char said:
it's not the US's interests
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I have no idea what the 'leadership' of the USA is actually trying to accomplish in regards to foreign policy. I'm not even sure that there's a single overriding plan in place. It's possible that the sock-puppeting of Biden is from so many points of influence that we're seeing that play out on the world stage.
 
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