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Scooby Doo

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If it was "truthful" (in the only sense the legal system cares about) the Clintons would be in prison for it.
I don't think you can go to jail for being suspected of hiring assassin's but they can sure as hell be investigated.


I think she'd only go to jail for defamation/perjury and negligence in this hypothetical universe since she has too much dirt to get investigated.
 

Megadeath

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Tbf I wouldn't count that as Defamation, I would say it's factually correct that it's suspicious.

Truthful claims would still be allowed in this verse, so it's off set by no one in politics or media being able to talk shit about Trump so much.
You realise trump himself would definitely fall foul of this? Whatever else you might think about the guy, you'd have to be an idiot not to recognise that he loves to run his mohth off without much thought for the consequences.
 

Bear Ribs

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I don't think you can go to jail for being suspected of hiring assassin's but they can sure as hell be investigated.


I think she'd only go to jail for defamation/perjury and negligence in this hypothetical universe since she has too much dirt to get investigated.
I think you lost my chain of logic there.

If Defamation carries a life sentence, then claiming the Clintons have a trail of dead bodies would give said claimant a life sentence.
If Truth was a perfect defense against defamation charges, there would have to be sufficient proof in the courts to establish that the Clintons have such a body trail.
If the Clintons had such a body trail (provable to the courts) they would already be in prison.
The Clintons are not in prison.

Conclusion: you would not be able to use "But it's true" as a defense if the Clintons charged you with defamation and you would receive life in prison.

In general, mucking around with defamation laws is really tricky because such laws can be so easily abused. I don't much care for the current system where defamation is nearly impossible to make stick because the laws effectively require reading the media mogul's mine (you have to basically prove what they were thinking, not just their actions) but my preferred recourse is more along the lines of "retractions and public apologies must be printed/posted/advertised just as prominently as the original claim."

Such a requirement satisfies a certain sense of justice in being balanced, does not destroy the publisher's entire life for making a mistake, and most importantly goes a long way to restoring the damages to the victim by helping repair their reputation.
 

Megadeath

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Doesn't that agent realize he just tainted his testimony in future trials? I mean defense attorney's can point to this and ask him, on the stand, why his testimony should hold weight.
No they can't. Or more accurately, defence attorney's can ask him, but then prosecution can object and it'd almost certainly be sustained. Generally speaking, either side can only object to evidence with issues that are specifically relevant rather than with general character type issues. There's exceptions and stuff, but even if he were charged with and found guilty of perjury it would be hard to get it considered.
That said, it's kind of irrelevant anyway. If there's concern that something he needs to add might not be believed, they just have a different agent who's aware of the same information called as a witness instead.
 

Terthna

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Doesn't that agent realize he just tainted his testimony in future trials? I mean defense attorney's can point to this and ask him, on the stand, why his testimony should hold weight.
It's possible he may not. The establishment he is a servant of has gotten away with far worse countless times, after all; and arrogance is a common failing of aspiring tyrants.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman


So now the court docs for a Proud Boys trial is saying the DoJ/FBI are placing/have placed informants among the defense teams.


Not surprised, during the AIM fiasco (when Native American ethnonats and actor Russel Means convinced an FBI agent to murder his fellow agents in exchange for sex with AIM groupies) they just straight up murdered journalists investigating their nonsense.

Look up the finders cult as well, the DOJ had the NSA just blow up Cessnas in the air all over Tampa FL causing a bunch of journalists and local cops to have tragic accidents.
 

DarthOne

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Not surprised, during the AIM fiasco (when Native American ethnonats and actor Russel Means convinced an FBI agent to murder his fellow agents in exchange for sex with AIM groupies) they just straight up murdered journalists investigating their nonsense.

Look up the finders cult as well, the DOJ had the NSA just blow up Cessnas in the air all over Tampa FL causing a bunch of journalists and local cops to have tragic accidents.
How in God’s name have they managed to avoid getting shut down?
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
How in God’s name have they managed to avoid getting shut down?

Well the Department of Justice is actually one of the few departments I think is mandated from our founding documents unless my memory is off.


But they definitely and I mean definitely need to be reduced to a level more analogous to a small county sized district attorney's office.

Also we should probably make the legal professional a trade again. All of this insanity happens when you allow managerial class types to run your country.

Three agencies definitely need to be shutdown by and large.
 

ShieldWife

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So now the court docs for a Proud Boys trial is saying the DoJ/FBI are placing/have placed informants among the defense teams.

Wow, how completely evil and disgusting. Not surprising though.

All charges need to be dropped and a complete investigation done on the FBI and Justice Department. I’m not expecting that to happen though.

The Biden regime is turning the USA into a corrupt police state.
 

LordsFire

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Wow, how completely evil and disgusting. Not surprising though.

All charges need to be dropped and a complete investigation done on the FBI and Justice Department. I’m not expecting that to happen though.

The Biden regime is turning the USA into a corrupt police state.

The Obama administration already did that.

It's just becoming more visible now.
 

ShieldWife

Marchioness
The Obama administration already did that.

It's just becoming more visible now.
True. Obama was really bad about that, such as having the IRS go after Tea Party groups or investigating the Trump campaign. I would go further and say the America’s police state has been growing under every president for decades. Much of the infrastructure for this police state was created under George W. Bush and the Deep State was actively subverting Trump even while he was president.

I think it’s become worse under Biden. More overt. But it’s nothing new.
 
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