I think we're pretty close to it here in the US.
#MeToo and Cancel Culture: Friday is bring your own torches and pitchforks day!
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We're already seeing it starting, and among young people at that if the current revival sweeping across the country is anything to go by.
We're at the edges of one
That,or death and replacment by muslims.Which could be count as religious revival ....
Blasterbot
Well-known member
On the one hand, something seriously has gone wrong in the West -- just remember not being a religious doesn't make you an immoral person. You don't need a Christian morality to be a good person, even if said morality came from Christian morals long ago.
On the other hand, people here seem to be under the impression that America becoming more religious again on the whole would be a good thing. I'm... not sure that's the case, since it'd just have more and more people being assholes and using religion as an excuse.
There are reasons why people roll their eyes when an American brings up God in some context or another.
As for the migration into the West from shithole areas of the world? Yeah, it's a real problem, and Muslims from these shitholes are becoming more and more influential in Western nations, such as Sweden, the UK, Germany.
I find it amusing to use a video game example, but in the civilization games when a migrant population of a different country becomes dominant in one of your cities, it becomes more and more like the aforementioned country until they want to join it. It's basically a soft-touch invasion/annexation.
That's basically what's going on in the West right now.
What a lot of people, especially on the Left, don't want to admit is that Western values are not their values. They don't integrate on the whole (see the Pakistani population in the UK), they segregate.
There was a sad case a few months ago about this blonde, Swedish chick who welcomed Islamic refugees into Sweden. She was pro-migration and die-hard Left.
Yeah, one of those "refugees" raped her to near-death, then strangled/mutilated her to actual death after using her as a disposable cum-sock, and then left her body to rot in an abandoned suitcase wedged between two buildings.
Why? Because, in his eyes, she wasn't Muslim, she wasn't human. She was just a thing to be used.
More examples? Two people decided to bike around the world and rely on the kindness of strangers to prove a point that everyone can get along. Yeah, no. They were raped and killed by... you guessed it!
Other Islamic refugees who follow Sharia Law have said the same thing: If they're not Muslim women, it's perfectly fine to rape or have sex with them without care.
These people from these shitholes aren't compatible with Western life, and the dumbass elites running our countries are essentially importing them. Plain as.
On the upside, I think people are waking up in the UK: the RNLI are now basically begging for donations on TV and the like now because people have stopped giving, when they woke up to the fact the RNLI are always rescuing "migrants" in the Channel and North Sea.
On the other hand, people here seem to be under the impression that America becoming more religious again on the whole would be a good thing. I'm... not sure that's the case, since it'd just have more and more people being assholes and using religion as an excuse.
There are reasons why people roll their eyes when an American brings up God in some context or another.
As for the migration into the West from shithole areas of the world? Yeah, it's a real problem, and Muslims from these shitholes are becoming more and more influential in Western nations, such as Sweden, the UK, Germany.
I find it amusing to use a video game example, but in the civilization games when a migrant population of a different country becomes dominant in one of your cities, it becomes more and more like the aforementioned country until they want to join it. It's basically a soft-touch invasion/annexation.
That's basically what's going on in the West right now.
What a lot of people, especially on the Left, don't want to admit is that Western values are not their values. They don't integrate on the whole (see the Pakistani population in the UK), they segregate.
There was a sad case a few months ago about this blonde, Swedish chick who welcomed Islamic refugees into Sweden. She was pro-migration and die-hard Left.
Yeah, one of those "refugees" raped her to near-death, then strangled/mutilated her to actual death after using her as a disposable cum-sock, and then left her body to rot in an abandoned suitcase wedged between two buildings.
Why? Because, in his eyes, she wasn't Muslim, she wasn't human. She was just a thing to be used.
More examples? Two people decided to bike around the world and rely on the kindness of strangers to prove a point that everyone can get along. Yeah, no. They were raped and killed by... you guessed it!
Other Islamic refugees who follow Sharia Law have said the same thing: If they're not Muslim women, it's perfectly fine to rape or have sex with them without care.
These people from these shitholes aren't compatible with Western life, and the dumbass elites running our countries are essentially importing them. Plain as.
On the upside, I think people are waking up in the UK: the RNLI are now basically begging for donations on TV and the like now because people have stopped giving, when they woke up to the fact the RNLI are always rescuing "migrants" in the Channel and North Sea.
JasonSanjo
Your Overlord and Jester
Source on this one? I've looked around but can't seem to find any references to it anywhere. Closest I could find involved a 12-year-old girl in Paris, France, and that was apparently done by a woman.
Strangely enough, I can't find the story anywhere despite it being on news headlines just three/four years ago. That's... pretty worrying in itself.
On the downside, I did find plenty of other stories about Swedish and Norwegian women being raped by migrants while searching, though. 🤨
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Certain stories get 100% memory holed off the internet. Same way you can't find the news story of CH-47 shot down by AIM-92 that was supposed to go to Libya anymore, fully purged off the net.
No that is not the case.
Eventually those mansions and private schools and all those others things cant save you. At that point having ruined their country they will look for some other place to fuck up and live high on the hog. Problem is....the entire western world is going through this and your going to get an increasingly pissed off populist revolt thats civilizational wide.
The Medium term is bad for us, the long term is fucking lethal for them.
PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
And that is why the rich have boltholes in New Zealand and Israel. It's shortsighted of them, but that is common thing for humans.
If people are using their religion as cover to be assholes, then they aren't actually religious. They are scheisters.
At least those who claim to be followers of Christ. I won't speak for other religions. They may be perfectly capable of strictly following their religion and still being assholes.
FTFY
Pretty much in total agreement here.
Yinko
Well-known member
Western religious revivalism isn't all going towards Christianity, it's more of a spiritual diaspora. Which isn't terrible, since everything bad about the Left came out of Christian thought, modern Leftism is a natural consequence of Liberalism, and Liberalism is a natural consequence of Protestantism.
On the other hand, how many of these newly religious/spiritual people are just doing it to feel special? No different from someone dying their hair.
You gonna have to prove that, but we'd have to start a new thread I think.
I don't think it's natural. I think it's constructed with intent.
That has some merit to it. But you really need to define Liberalism here as it's been redefined by certain people.
Yinko
Well-known member
In reverse order.
By Liberalism I mean Humanism.
You might be right.
If you accept that Humanism stems from Protestantism and that Leftism stems from Humanism, then Leftism stems from Protestantism. P⊃H⊃L == P⊃L
Wis
Wishful thinking, the elite have so much wealth and technology they don't even have to live in mansions thanks to private planes and yachts. I don't know why you think any kind of ''civilizational revolt'' is going to happen in cucked western countries. The people there can't organize anything worth a damn without three letters glowing it up. The long term is becoming goy cattle🤔
Blasterbot
Well-known member
I am not so sure here. when interacting with self avowed non Christians they tend to be far more intolerant. when interacting with a self avowed atheist they do everything they can to say fuck Christians. even if it is something like sexualizing kids or simulating cannibalism or some shit. if you make me choose between people who say no sex till you are married and it doesn't matter if 11 year olds go to orgies I know what side I want to win. I think it is a division. there are people who say this has gone too far and are pushing one way. and there are people who think it hasn't gone far enough and want to push further. there is no stay here. there is no one step further. there is no one step back. it is just which direction you want to apply pressure to advance towards.
Found this article on the Spread of Woke into the Merchant Marine canceling religion:
Leftist Politics Infiltrating Merchant Marine
Terresa Monroe-HamiltonMarch 3, 2023
Former and current midshipmen from the Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point, New York, are warning that "woke" ideology is infecting the school and its poisonous influence is spreading under the leadership of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
The prestigious Merchant Marine Academy falls under the purview of the Department of Transportation. According to its website, it educates leaders "who are inspired to serve the national security, marine transportation, and economic needs of the United States."
In January, the academy was splashed across the headlines following a controversy over a historical painting by Hunter Wood called "Christ on the Water." It shows Jesus Christ walking on the water toward merchant mariners lost at sea.
After a complaint was filed by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) which deemed the painting as offensive, the academy placed a white curtain over it, according to Fox News Digital.
That letter prompted a petition and letters of protest to the admiral from Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), and other members of Congress. The academy then announced that the painting would be uncovered but moved to the school's chapel which, according to multiple sources, is prone to flooding.
Cruz blasted Nunan for the move, claiming he is "deeply concerned" by her "flawed understanding of the First Amendment to our Constitution" and that the time, "place and manner restrictions such as those Mr. Weinstein alleges are safeguards against government over-regulation of private speech."
The senator remarked that Nunan's "response to Mr. Weinstein's email" is "not only unsupported by the law, but is manifestly unnecessary." The senator also said the response "raises the question of whether you, like Mr. Weinstein, are overtly hostile to religion."
A number of anonymous sources told Fox News Digital that during a recent question-and-answer session with Nunan about the Jesus painting, a midshipman received a standing ovation from other students after he asked why a painting of Jesus was being removed because it might offend some people, while material promoting LGBTQ was allowed to be displayed despite potentially offending people of faith.
"I'm just kind of paraphrasing, but [Nunan] basically said that you have to glorify the minority," one source recalled.
The controversy over the painting is just one symptom of woke-ism that is "absolutely" infiltrating the USMMA, according to midshipman John Guettlein, who graduated from the academy in 2022. He spoke with Fox News about the situation.
He claims that the COVID vaccine policies kicked off the trend. Many midshipmen pushed back against the forced vaccinations and the school started cracking down on them in 2021.
"It was basically [get the vaccine] or get kicked out of the academy, and for an entire year, they were picking off one by one," he recounted.
"A lot of the freshmen, a lot of my friends, just straight-up left because they didn't want to get into a school that was threatening that. There was just no hope for them," Guettlein remarked.
Multiple sources told Fox News Digital that midshipmen who would not submit to the jab were prohibited from eating dinner in the school's Delano Hall and were required to pick up boxed food instead.
"So, there were a lot of times when people were missing meals," Guettlein recalled. "People had to order out and pay for their own food. As freshmen, you can't even order out technically, so it would be upperclassmen getting them food."
A 2021 email that was obtained by Fox News Digital shows that former USMMA Superintendent Vice Adm. Joachim Buono stated that the dining hall policy "encourages unvaccinated midshipmen to become vaccinated."
Guettlein and another unnamed source accused the academy of ostracizing the unvaccinated from friends, segregating them in formation, and requiring them to wear masks and social distance.
A spokesperson for the US Maritime Administration said in a statement to Fox News Digital that the USMMA is a place where "essential values of mutual respect and dignity are firmly upheld, and we take pride in establishing a campus that reflects excellence, service, and honor."
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, the Academy put in place precautions to ensure the health and wellbeing of all midshipmen, faculty, and staff, and we disagree with any assertions that any member of our community was mistreated for any reason related to the pandemic," the spokesperson declared.
"There was a lot less woke stuff around campus, and then it's just slowly crept in," claimed a midshipman who has been there since 2021. He pointed out that the main passageway of the school was adorned with a mural promoting LGBTQ ideology.
According to her official USMMA biography, Nunan, who became the school's first female superintendent in December, boasts that she has helped "spearhead efforts to expand diversity and inclusion in the Coast Guard."
"They're trying to institute cultural change, but on the ground, the midshipman culture has not changed," he commented.
"It's unfortunate, the politicization that our school has undergone from the new administration, and it only seems to be getting worse," the midshipman continued. "And quite frankly, I'm happy that I'm on my way out because you really can't speak up politically here. You could easily get reprimanded. It is what it is, whereas it used not to be the case."
"It's very clear that there are ideological differences between the people in charge here and the people who actually go here, as well as the majority of the professors who are actually conservative themselves," he stated, adding that he and his peers at times feel "targeted."
"It's almost like we're the last frontier for woke ideology," he concluded.
Leftist Politics Infiltrating Merchant Marine
Leftist politics infiltrating Merchant Marine Academy, midshipmen warn: 'Last frontier for woke ideology'
Terresa Monroe-HamiltonMarch 3, 2023
Former and current midshipmen from the Merchant Marine Academy in Kings Point, New York, are warning that "woke" ideology is infecting the school and its poisonous influence is spreading under the leadership of Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg.
The prestigious Merchant Marine Academy falls under the purview of the Department of Transportation. According to its website, it educates leaders "who are inspired to serve the national security, marine transportation, and economic needs of the United States."
In January, the academy was splashed across the headlines following a controversy over a historical painting by Hunter Wood called "Christ on the Water." It shows Jesus Christ walking on the water toward merchant mariners lost at sea.
After a complaint was filed by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF) which deemed the painting as offensive, the academy placed a white curtain over it, according to Fox News Digital.
MRFF president and founder Michael Weinstein wrote a letter to USMMA Superintendent Vice Adm. Joanna M. Nunan on Jan. 10 arguing that the painting constituted a violation of the First Amendment's clause forbidding the establishment of religion.
That letter prompted a petition and letters of protest to the admiral from Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Rep. Jim Banks (R-Ind.), and other members of Congress. The academy then announced that the painting would be uncovered but moved to the school's chapel which, according to multiple sources, is prone to flooding.
Cruz blasted Nunan for the move, claiming he is "deeply concerned" by her "flawed understanding of the First Amendment to our Constitution" and that the time, "place and manner restrictions such as those Mr. Weinstein alleges are safeguards against government over-regulation of private speech."
The senator remarked that Nunan's "response to Mr. Weinstein's email" is "not only unsupported by the law, but is manifestly unnecessary." The senator also said the response "raises the question of whether you, like Mr. Weinstein, are overtly hostile to religion."
A number of anonymous sources told Fox News Digital that during a recent question-and-answer session with Nunan about the Jesus painting, a midshipman received a standing ovation from other students after he asked why a painting of Jesus was being removed because it might offend some people, while material promoting LGBTQ was allowed to be displayed despite potentially offending people of faith.
"I'm just kind of paraphrasing, but [Nunan] basically said that you have to glorify the minority," one source recalled.
The controversy over the painting is just one symptom of woke-ism that is "absolutely" infiltrating the USMMA, according to midshipman John Guettlein, who graduated from the academy in 2022. He spoke with Fox News about the situation.
He claims that the COVID vaccine policies kicked off the trend. Many midshipmen pushed back against the forced vaccinations and the school started cracking down on them in 2021.
"It was basically [get the vaccine] or get kicked out of the academy, and for an entire year, they were picking off one by one," he recounted.
"A lot of the freshmen, a lot of my friends, just straight-up left because they didn't want to get into a school that was threatening that. There was just no hope for them," Guettlein remarked.
Multiple sources told Fox News Digital that midshipmen who would not submit to the jab were prohibited from eating dinner in the school's Delano Hall and were required to pick up boxed food instead.
"So, there were a lot of times when people were missing meals," Guettlein recalled. "People had to order out and pay for their own food. As freshmen, you can't even order out technically, so it would be upperclassmen getting them food."
A 2021 email that was obtained by Fox News Digital shows that former USMMA Superintendent Vice Adm. Joachim Buono stated that the dining hall policy "encourages unvaccinated midshipmen to become vaccinated."
Guettlein and another unnamed source accused the academy of ostracizing the unvaccinated from friends, segregating them in formation, and requiring them to wear masks and social distance.
A spokesperson for the US Maritime Administration said in a statement to Fox News Digital that the USMMA is a place where "essential values of mutual respect and dignity are firmly upheld, and we take pride in establishing a campus that reflects excellence, service, and honor."
"During the COVID-19 pandemic, the Academy put in place precautions to ensure the health and wellbeing of all midshipmen, faculty, and staff, and we disagree with any assertions that any member of our community was mistreated for any reason related to the pandemic," the spokesperson declared.
"There was a lot less woke stuff around campus, and then it's just slowly crept in," claimed a midshipman who has been there since 2021. He pointed out that the main passageway of the school was adorned with a mural promoting LGBTQ ideology.
According to her official USMMA biography, Nunan, who became the school's first female superintendent in December, boasts that she has helped "spearhead efforts to expand diversity and inclusion in the Coast Guard."
A senior midshipman blamed both Nunan and Buttigieg for cultural changes at the academy, claiming the transportation secretary "has put a bunch of people in power" with "a warped perspective" on diversifying the school.
"They're trying to institute cultural change, but on the ground, the midshipman culture has not changed," he commented.
"It's unfortunate, the politicization that our school has undergone from the new administration, and it only seems to be getting worse," the midshipman continued. "And quite frankly, I'm happy that I'm on my way out because you really can't speak up politically here. You could easily get reprimanded. It is what it is, whereas it used not to be the case."
"It's very clear that there are ideological differences between the people in charge here and the people who actually go here, as well as the majority of the professors who are actually conservative themselves," he stated, adding that he and his peers at times feel "targeted."
"It's almost like we're the last frontier for woke ideology," he concluded.