KilroywasNOTHere
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off topic but what even is modernity beyond defining itself? I keep hearing it used and it just seems like a catchall term people use to complain about whatever they don't like about their lives.
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Modernity is a period in a civilizations life cycle where they run a whole lot of social experiments before they settle on what they are as a civilization. some of these experiements work and are added tradition most however fail and are discarded.
KilroywasNOTHere
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so it happens like every 50-100 years or so?
What were going through is a rougly 300 year time period that started with the french revolution.
KilroywasNOTHere
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...oh boy, alright, well this is where you and I become at an impasse.
yeah.
Its not all bad but that last 3rd is the really shitty part....guess what we are living through.
KilroywasNOTHere
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we've had this conversation many times dude.
Jaenera Targaryen
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So...basically, this?
JasonSanjo
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Having actually spent a month in the Philippines (though not for romantic reasons, though I did end up briefly dating a Filipina while I was there), I can say the following when compared to Swedish women: a) No; b) No and sometimes (there's a good chunk of Filipinas who would be considered uneducated by Swedish standards, however the ones who do get a higher education take it far more seriously and pragmatically than most Swedish women); c) Hahaha, no (though it should be said Filipinas are typically more traditionally feminine in both looks and manner than the majority of modern Swedish women); d) Nope and nope.
What's even funnier? Swedish women, the batshit feminist brigade, tried to push their government to severely limit Swedish men from going to Thailand to find Thai wives.
Yeah, pretty much. There are still plenty of physically attractive Swedish women, but most of them have rotten personalities. This is of course generalizing a lot, but you could divide modern Swedish women into three basic groups:
"Feminists"/hoes (who use feminism as an excuse to be hoes and/or gold-diggers, but don't actually believe in many or even any of the typical feminist values and usually don't hate men though an alarming number of them do see men as "less" than women and morally legitimate targets for exploitation in various forms)
Feminists (female supremacists, man-haters, battle axes; you know the drill)
Non-feminists (not necessarily traditional women, but they are neither man-haters nor hoes and while they typically want equal rights at the same time as they do often take advantage of technically unequal pro-women laws and advantages, they don't buy into the whole "men and women are biologically the same" crap).
In terms of size? The first group is larger than the other two combined, while the second is somewhat smaller than the third (though it can appear larger due to being probably a million times louder).
Women in the third group tend to get married or into a long-term relationship in their late teens or early twenties and then stay there for decades or even their whole lives, though some of them do end up with the wrong men (as in, actual bad men who will just use and then discard them, or worse yet physically and verbally abuse them) and as a result may end up long-term single later than their twenties, but those women are fairly rare.
Of course, all of the above is true only in broad terms; proportionately speaking, the higher up you go in age, the smaller the first and second groups get while the third group gets larger. Unfortunately that doesn't really help single men...
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Asian women are the antithesis of submissive. Ive dated Taiwanese, Japanese, Korean and Singaporean women and the one thing they all had in common is a pathological inability to let any topic go or reign in their emotions when it came to things they wanted.
I have never on my life been nagged more than I've been nagged by Asian women, I've never had anyone relentlessly badger me, interrogate me or pressure me the way Asian girlfriends do.
They're disgustingly neurotic and not at all worth the stress, frustration and the passive aggression which they take to an artform.
I've been interrogated by mil-police, fucking commies and that was a more pleasant experience than a general family dinner with an Asian GFs parents.
I'm with one now, we've been together for almost a decade and she's my missus. She's the only one I'll ever tolerate. Thank God the kids aren't like her cousins and aunts. It's telling that the only one I've ever been able to love or stand is one who utterly rejects her heritage and culture and sees herself as entirely American.
Tldr: lmao trad waifu in a kimono waiting for me at home with a tea ceremony is a fucking myth. You get with a dragon lady, you better be prepared for a very interesting life, one filled with days where you want to serve her papers at least twice a year.
And you have to decide if that's worth it rather than risking being raped by western women and then baby trapped and fucked by family courts.
I have never on my life been nagged more than I've been nagged by Asian women, I've never had anyone relentlessly badger me, interrogate me or pressure me the way Asian girlfriends do.
They're disgustingly neurotic and not at all worth the stress, frustration and the passive aggression which they take to an artform.
I've been interrogated by mil-police, fucking commies and that was a more pleasant experience than a general family dinner with an Asian GFs parents.
I'm with one now, we've been together for almost a decade and she's my missus. She's the only one I'll ever tolerate. Thank God the kids aren't like her cousins and aunts. It's telling that the only one I've ever been able to love or stand is one who utterly rejects her heritage and culture and sees herself as entirely American.
Tldr: lmao trad waifu in a kimono waiting for me at home with a tea ceremony is a fucking myth. You get with a dragon lady, you better be prepared for a very interesting life, one filled with days where you want to serve her papers at least twice a year.
And you have to decide if that's worth it rather than risking being raped by western women and then baby trapped and fucked by family courts.
Also there's no such thing as a normal conversation with an Asian woman.
Everything is a mind game where they try and get leverage on you, everything is about how they can subsume you and control every aspect of your life. Everything is a pretext for something else etc.
Tldr; this shopping for an Asian wife is a tradcon cope and a dangerous one because they'll fuck your kids up just as easily as a modern danger hair will.
Just differently.
Everything is a mind game where they try and get leverage on you, everything is about how they can subsume you and control every aspect of your life. Everything is a pretext for something else etc.
Tldr; this shopping for an Asian wife is a tradcon cope and a dangerous one because they'll fuck your kids up just as easily as a modern danger hair will.
Just differently.
Jaenera Targaryen
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You think dating Asian women is hard? Try growing up with one. I'm the older sibling, but getting my younger sister to obey is like pulling teeth. Even our mother found it hard to keep her in line.
Surprisingly - or not - enough, it was our father who my sister couldn't so much as talk back to. Apparently, she understood the buck stopped there, and knew better than to push.
Surprisingly - or not - enough, it was our father who my sister couldn't so much as talk back to. Apparently, she understood the buck stopped there, and knew better than to push.
Blasterbot
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yeah if you look at asian cultures in general the women had a lot of power over the purse strings of the household and the family. If you know that and are fine with it going into that it has a better chance of working out. obviously different cultures within asia have different standards but in japan the husband basically gets an allowance from the wife even though he earns the money. some might be alright with letting the wife handle that stuff though.
Women respect a strong father figure. More than respect: they crave it. An authority figure that makes them feel safe. Whether it is their actual father or not, makes no difference.
Interestingly enough, my grandfather and grandmother were more or less like that. It was a "the wife runs the house; the husband runs everything else" kind of arrangement. Wouldn't go as far as saying my grandfather was given an "allowance" though; and, when it came down to it, he was the man of the house and that was indisputable.
I've never been with an asian girl. But my experience with girls in general is to keep a girl "starry eyed" enough that she never gets to the point of the "calculating eyes" that I fucking hate.
Emotions control women. It is why their opinions of a man can change from, literally, second to second. It is all about how they feel about you in the moment.
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This is why I like tomboys.
TyrantTriumphant
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Though many stereotypes are rooted in truth, it is important not to apply them to broadly. Every group has members who defy conventions and even then these things tend to exist on a spectrum rather than as a firm rule.
For instance, while it is true that woman tend to be more emotional or less strong than men, this does not apply to all of them. And this can range from slightly more emotional than the average man to total stereotype.
I'm not saying that certain groups don't tend to behave in certain ways, they do. But let's remember that stereotypes are not always true.
And I know that I'm stating the obvious here but I feel it needs to be said anyway.
For instance, while it is true that woman tend to be more emotional or less strong than men, this does not apply to all of them. And this can range from slightly more emotional than the average man to total stereotype.
I'm not saying that certain groups don't tend to behave in certain ways, they do. But let's remember that stereotypes are not always true.
And I know that I'm stating the obvious here but I feel it needs to be said anyway.
DarthOne
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And how does one keep them ‘starry eyed’?
That's the result of two thousand years of Japanese men deeming that things like the economy were unmanly pursuits so the mother and the daughters ran pretty much all aspects of Japanese finances and they defend this by pointing out that every time Japanese men get involved in tbe economy. They lose out on things like becoming the top economy on earth etc. Which is hilarious when you look at how the economy remained stagnant for two centuries under female only management.
Jamaican and Aruban women are like that too, they just aren't emotionally abusive about it. More sly and strategic.
Edit- @colorles post, the old adage "a husband leads, a wife commands" seems to fit a lot of elderly couples I know.
It's a very healthy dynamic too it seems. Makes sense though women were the genetic and cultural purity tests for so much of our existence and the existence of our more ape like ancestors, that they sort of redirected their energies to being keepers of the cultural flame seamlessly.
Women commanded the hearth and heart and so also the legacy, men built it. The architect and the contractor etc.
A lot of what's going on now seems to be due to an attempt to change those instinctive dynamics.
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DarthOne
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And the sooner it backfires the better. And Lord willing it will be in a few years at most. Mostly because at this rate I worry there won’t be anything left to save.
Though I do wonder which would be ‘better’ a backlash that happens sooner, that might not push things back enough to sanity. Or one that happens later that runs the risk of not happening because of how bad modernity has poisoned things but could be more through if it happens.
Jaenera Targaryen
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The West will collapse, and while the rest of the world will suffer for it, they'll survive, and just maybe will be the ones to rebuild it. Still, it's a sad fate for Western civilization, made even sadder when it could easily have been avoided, and the West deserved better than to burn out by its own success.