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Bacle

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I distinguished between those who want to see their country raped and its decline managed more by the military industrial complex and its masters in Beijing and in Banks.

And Americans.



When bigger countries do this, while massacring their own citizens with fentanyl, false flags and a manufactured health and financial crisis crisis while targeting the children of said citizens for mutilation and rape no less.

Helping a corrupt drug addict murdering Christians and jailing his political opponents and cleaning the money of our pedophiles is coming at the cost of Americans.

If you support this conflict, whether you're pro Russia or Pro Azov Battallion..you're pro murdering Americans period.



Every million dollars snorted up Zelensky's nose is another dead American at home.

These emotional bait posts don't work on posters who just don't care.
And your shit isn't 'emotional bait' in the other direction?

I mean this 'if you are pro-Ukraine you are pro-murdering Americans' bit is just hysterically reaching and kinda pathetic.

Also, I do expect more people in the US do care about the fate of Ukraine than follow your mindset.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
And your shit isn't 'emotional bait' in the other direction?

I mean this 'if you are pro-Ukraine you are pro-murdering Americans' bit is just hysterically reaching and kinda pathetic.

Also, I do expect more people in the US do care about the fate of Ukraine than follow your mindset.

I'm only rhetorically holding a mirror up to your face Bacle, the only difference is mine holds a ring of truth in that every time the death by fentanyl or raped by tranny meter ticks upwards, it's directly the fault of the people who want to give forty billion dollars to the guys who launder the money of the elites so they can feel like it's the 1980's again.
 

Bacle

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Founder
I'm only rhetorically holding a mirror up to your face Bacle, the only difference is mine holds a ring of truth in that every time the death by fentanyl or raped by tranny meter ticks upwards, it's directly the fault of the people who want to give forty billion dollars to the guys who launder the money of the elites so they can feel like it's the 1980's again.
Yeah, I know you like that line, only it has no real basis in reality and is in fact conflating several separate issues and situations for a convient (for the Far Right grifters) narrative about how Ukraine is just as bad as Russia and so shouldn't be helped.

It undermines a lot of the legit points you've made before, by conflating some legit domestic issues (fentanyl deaths and tranny shit) with stuff that has no relation to it or part in it domestic pushes (aid to Ukraine) because you listen to too many people who do conflate the two for clicks and grift reasons.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
Yeah, I know you like that line, only it has no real basis in reality and is in fact conflating several separate issues and situations for a convient (for the Far Right grifters) narrative about how Ukraine is just as bad as Russia and so shouldn't be helped.

It undermines a lot of the legit points you've made before, by conflating some legit domestic issues (fentanyl deaths and tranny shit) with stuff that has no relation to it or part in it domestic pushes (aid to Ukraine) because you listen to too many people who do conflate the two for clicks and grift reasons.

No they're all linked. And do yourself a favor and don't conflate me for you. I don't trust any expert, I reject them all. Any conclusions I draw are my own, I summarily dismiss anything anyone with foreign relations experience says. I am a proud anti-academic Bacle. No one tells me anything and I don't listen to talking heads on youtube, rumble or whatever else.

That's you...demean someone else's intelligence by implying they don't think for themselves. I initiate every analyses with "If the person has a degree and experience internationally they're a liar, a retard and a glowie. Also probably LGBT."

Globalism is the root cause of all of this.

Globalism is why this conflict is happening, because a clique of lobbyists and spooks and politicians who realize they're losing power and nationalism and isolationism is winning engineered a war to both launder their money and expand the security state to keep themselves in power.

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This applies to you.

It does not apply to me.

Oh and.
 

Zachowon

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And Russians rape each other to establish dominance, had chechens literally shoot others running. Because Chechens are Islamic and blood thirsty o guess.
Have legit nazis and penal legions dying in droves.

We have had multiple foreign fighters return telling of how things have been.

Also I have never even heard of the Mozart group training Ukrainians
 

Bacle

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Founder
No they're all linked. And do yourself a favor and don't conflate me for you. I don't trust any expert, I reject them all. Any conclusions I draw are my own, I summarily dismiss anything anyone with foreign relations experience says. I am a proud anti-academic Bacle. No one tells me anything and I don't listen to talking heads on youtube, rumble or whatever else.

That's you...demean someone else's intelligence by implying they don't think for themselves. I initiate every analyses with "If the person has a degree and experience internationally they're a liar, a retard and a glowie. Also probably LGBT."

Globalism is the root cause of all of this.

Globalism is why this conflict is happening, because a clique of lobbyists and spooks and politicians who realize they're losing power and nationalism and isolationism is winning engineered a war to both launder their money and expand the security state to keep themselves in power.

Fk8JdyXXgAMkScZ


This applies to you.

It does not apply to me.

Oh and.
Yes, I do realize you are a great example of the contrarian Right, and show why it is so easy to pull the nose of said group around.

Like, if all it takes to make you effectively condemn and hate someone is having a more informed view of the world and not reflexively hating most of society, no wonder you are so detached from the majority of the US public.

Because in this last post you showed you do not actually represent much f how the US public thinks, with this bit right here:
...I summarily dismiss anything anyone with foreign relations experience says. I am a proud anti-academic Bacle. No one tells me anything and I don't listen to talking heads on youtube, rumble or whatever else.

That's you...demean someone else's intelligence by implying they don't think for themselves. I initiate every analyses with "If the person has a degree and experience internationally they're a liar, a retard and a glowie. Also probably LGBT."
You gave away the game, my man; the contrarian Right, who care only about 'Non-Far Right bad, anything non-Far Right lies and bad', are the only ones you are listening too, and they are full of grifters like Pedro Gonzales and his ilk.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
And Russians rape each other to establish dominance, had chechens literally shoot others running. Because Chechens are Islamic and blood thirsty o guess.
Have legit nazis and penal legions dying in droves.

We have had multiple foreign fighters return telling of how things have been.

Also I have never even heard of the Mozart group training Ukrainians

Yes my recurring theme is "All of Eastern Europe is bad and we're idiots for helping any of those barbarians"

Why is this so difficult to grasp? You can't refute my point by bringing up worse examples from Russia because it fundamentally misunderstands my point. To do so.

They all suck.

Fuck all of them.

Because in this last post you showed you do not actually represent much f how the US public thinks, with this bit right here:
You gave away the game, my man; the contrarian Right, who care only about 'Non-Far Right bad, anything non-Far Right lies and bad', are the only ones you are listening too, and they are full of grifters like Pedro Gonzales and his ilk.

No my stance is "Reject everything in authority, because everything is corrupt and has to be reduced." This isn't a righht/left position Bacle, its a form of extreme minarchism. I'd take the same stance if fucking Pat Buchanan were President and he was retarded enough to go pursue money laundering fun times with a bunch of Tartars and Huns.

I reject the notion of experts. I reject the notion of status quo because our current status quo is both unnatural and Ungodly.

And plenty of people share my mindset, one need only look at the data to see that rejection of America's institutions and a hatred of credentialism is on the rise and growing every day.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
Not really?
You say you support ukraine? How much money have you donated to them so far?

Or has this support just been posting hashtags?
:rolleyes: Enough with this bullshit. And you do know it's just bullshit. People like you said this shit and then made fun of people who actually did go over and volunteer to fight for Ukraine, so the rest of us can see how consistent you are. But even without that, this is really no different from some leftist complaining about people saying they send their hopes and prayers after some disaster because they aren't personally going down and helping with recovery, or more likely following a mass shooting because they are against gun control.

I distinguished between those who want to see their country raped and its decline managed more by the military industrial complex and its masters in Beijing and in Banks.

And Americans.
As a Lakota, I am more American than you can ever hope to be. :cautious: I say this as someone who actually had some respect for you, because you are rapidly losing it.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
As a Lakota, I am more American than you can ever hope to be. :cautious: I say this as someone who actually had some respect for you, because you are rapidly losing it.

You belong to a people who claimed their lands by ethnic cleansing and rite of conquest. You're as American as my ancestors who visited like against South American natives who did worse. Your people knew the value of claiming what they wanted, laying their enemies low, and not being suckers for a bunch of disgusting international jackals who want their nation poor, its people on drugs, and it's future broken. They nearly fought to extinction to prevent exactly what Mitch McConnell and Joseph Biden are doing to America right now.

If a two-bit pimp like Zelensky came begging to a Lakota chief, he'd have had the man turned into a carpet and don't pretend otherwise. Because they literally flayed missionaries alive who tried this nonsense with them.

Or really anyone who came after their people and their culture.

I don't particularly understand where this hostility towards protectionism and isolationism comes from? Especially when a bunch of you were pro Trump ten months back...

People like you said this shit and then made fun of people who actually did go over and volunteer to fight for Ukraine.

Volunteering to fight in the Ukraine when the very people who caused that war are filling your neighborhood with drugs and killing your neighbor's kids?
 
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Captain X

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Osaul
You belong to a people who claimed their lands by ethnic cleansing and rite of conquest.
I keep seeing this meme, but frankly it's an admission by those who use it that a wrong took place, and the best they can come up with is "yeah, well your people did it, too." :rolleyes: Spare me the intellectual dishonesty.

If a two-bit pimp like Zelensky came begging to a Lakota chief, he'd have had the man turned into a carpet and don't pretend otherwise. Because they literally flayed missionaries alive who tried this nonsense with them.
My ancestors defended their people, their lands, and their culture, just as the Ukrainians do now against the Russians. I also understand the value of not letting Russian expansionism go unchecked. Any fool can see they would not have stopped at Ukraine, and they have even said as much themselves now. Would you wait until they are at your own gate? Or would you reach out your hand and give others the means to defend themselves before they can ever get that far?


I don't particularly understand where this hostility towards protectionism and isolationism comes from? Especially when a bunch of you were pro Trump ten months back...
In spite of everything, I still kind of am. I'll also remind you that Trump while he has said he wouldn't have acted in this way to defend Ukraine, not that long ago he bragged about how he delayed this "special military operation" by threatening to nuke Moscow.

Volunteering to fight in the Ukraine when the very people who caused that war are filling your neighborhood with drugs and killing your neighbor's kids?
For the millionth time - who invaded who? Russia started this war, and no one else. You can try playing the "whatabout" game all you want, nothing will change that. You are a victim of Russian propaganda, and the sooner you can see that, the better.
 

Zachowon

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I keep seeing this meme, but frankly it's an admission by those who use it that a wrong took place, and the best they can come up with is "yeah, well your people did it, too." :rolleyes: Spare me the intellectual dishonesty.


My ancestors defended their people, their lands, and their culture, just as the Ukrainians do now against the Russians. I also understand the value of not letting Russian expansionism go unchecked. Any fool can see they would not have stopped at Ukraine, and they have even said as much themselves now. Would you wait until they are at your own gate? Or would you reach out your hand and give others the means to defend themselves before they can ever get that far?



In spite of everything, I still kind of am. I'll also remind you that Trump while he has said he wouldn't have acted in this way to defend Ukraine, not that long ago he bragged about how he delayed this "special military operation" by threatening to nuke Moscow.


For the millionth time - who invaded who? Russia started this war, and no one else. You can try playing the "whatabout" game all you want, nothing will change that. You are a victim of Russian propaganda, and the sooner you can see that, the better.
Trump gave the Javelins to Ukraine....

Also, he is Argentinian. He also has no care for Europe and only cares about US Isolationism. Not understanding it won't work.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
I keep seeing this meme, but frankly it's an admission by those who use it that a wrong took place, and the best they can come up with is "yeah, well your people did it, too." :rolleyes: Spare me the intellectual dishonesty.

What intellectual dishonesty? I see absolutely nothing wrong with the imperialism of that era. It was Darwinian, it was natural and your ancestors just ran into a bigger, more efficient tribe of super predators.

But there's no point in denying that they'd have fed Zelensky his own entrails for the audacity. And brained any brave that had the temerity to fly another tribe's flag in their sacred spots.

My ancestors defended their people, their lands, and their culture, just as the Ukrainians do now against the Russians. I also understand the value of not letting Russian expansionism go unchecked. Any fool can see they would not have stopped at Ukraine, and they have even said as much themselves now. Would you wait until they are at your own gate? Or would you reach out your hand and give others the means to defend themselves before they can ever get that far?

No, they rampaged across the Americas forging empires using the flayed infants of their enemies as war banners. Like everyone else. There's no difference between your forefathers and the Vikings who raped Moscow into the ground and genetically replaced the Rus. There's no difference between a Lakota warchief and the commander of the Azov Battalion. Well except that Lakota's have culture and Eastern Europeans don't but whatever.

"They wouldn't stop at Ukraine!" when half of Russia doesn't have indoor plumbing and they have India and China on their doorstep and a pathetic ass GDP?

In spite of everything, I still kind of am. I'll also remind you that Trump while he has said he wouldn't have acted in this way to defend Ukraine, not that long ago he bragged about how he delayed this "special military operation" by threatening to nuke Moscow.

Yes, because he isn't 100% all in on the isolationism game.

The US can't continue to cling to a broken system that was subverted from them decades ago and survive as a nation.

For the millionth time - who invaded who? Russia started this war, and no one else. You can try playing the "whatabout" game all you want, nothing will change that. You are a victim of Russian propaganda, and the sooner you can see that, the better.

I'm a victim of Russian propaganda despite calling them barbarians who shit in igloos, who don't really even have a civilization? For Gods sakes...take fucking stock of the absurdity coming out of your proverbial mouth.

I just told a Polish user if his people psyopped France into nuking Moscow I wouldn't care.

Calling me a Russian shill is the single most autistic thing you can possible do and its fucking absurd. In fact its so absurd it nullifies your post.

Stop saying ridiculous shit.

Also, he is Argentinian. He also has no care for Europe and only cares about US Isolationism. Not understanding it won't work.

When the US only cared about the Americas, it became a monster able to throw every world power that tried to fuck with it out of its borders...including England and France when they tried to prolong the ACW to weaken whoever eventually won it.

It won't work because you'd be jobless.

That's not the same thing as it not working out for America.
 

Captain X

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Osaul
What intellectual dishonesty? I see absolutely nothing wrong with the imperialism of that era. It was Darwinian, it was natural and your ancestors just ran into a bigger, more efficient tribe of super predators.

But there's no point in denying that they'd have fed Zelensky his own entrails for the audacity. And brained any brave that had the temerity to fly another tribe's flag in their sacred spots.

No, they rampaged across the Americas forging empires using the flayed infants of their enemies as war banners. Like everyone else. There's no difference between your forefathers and the Vikings who raped Moscow into the ground and genetically replaced the Rus. There's no difference between a Lakota warchief and the commander of the Azov Battalion. Well except that Lakota's have culture and Eastern Europeans don't but whatever.
It's kind of amusing how you both presume to tell me about my own ancestors and paint them as the savages of old Hollywood while also trying to flatter me.

"They wouldn't stop at Ukraine!" when half of Russia doesn't have indoor plumbing and they have India and China on their doorstep and a pathetic ass GDP?
If not for the assistance they've been given, Russia probably would have won and being emboldened by this victory and continued to expand. They are very rightfully butthurt that we have given weapons, equipment, and training to the Ukrainians because they know it probably meant the difference between the successful conquest they wanted and the cluster fuck they find themselves in now.

I'm a victim of Russian propaganda despite calling them barbarians who shit in igloos, who don't really even have a civilization? For Gods sakes...take fucking stock of the absurdity coming out of your proverbial mouth.
What's absurd is that you spew the same shit the Russians do about the Ukrainians but think saying "fuck the Russians" somehow means that you aren't still repeating what their propagandists say.

Calling me a Russian shill is the single most autistic thing you can possible do and its fucking absurd. In fact its so absurd it nullifies your post.
:ROFLMAO: Who said you were a shill? I could name a couple of shills off the top of my head, but I probably shouldn't.

When the US only cared about the Americas, it became a monster able to throw every world power that tried to fuck with it out of its borders...including England and France when they tried to prolong the ACW to weaken whoever eventually won it.
I honestly see the Cold War in much the same light. it is a shame we lacked the zeal seen later on during times it might have made more of a difference.
 

The Immortal Watch Dog

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Hetman
It's kind of amusing how you both presume to tell me about my own ancestors and paint them as the savages of old Hollywood while also trying to flatter me.

"Savages of old Hollywood"

All those mass graves and all those tribes y'all exterminated were just one big Hollywood conspiracy...yah.

I mean if you wanna use the AIM line, that would explain taking a pro-Ukrainian stance, and there really isn't much difference between Russel Means and Zelensky...probably comparable amount of dead hookers and simping by the FBI to the point where SIC's are willing to murder their field agents for sex with their groupies included.

If not for the assistance they've been given, Russia probably would have won and being emboldened by this victory and continued to expand. They are very rightfully butthurt that we have given weapons, equipment, and training to the Ukrainians because they know it probably meant the difference between the successful conquest they wanted and the cluster fuck they find themselves in now.

Is this before or after Xi or Modi would decide to cuck them into oblivion because a stronger Russia doesn't benefit them? Or their economy cratered from having to put down brushfires for the first time in thirty years they weren't in any way prepared for?

What's absurd is that you spew the same shit the Russians do about the Ukrainians but think saying "fuck the Russians" somehow means that you aren't still repeating what their propagandists say.

"Every Eastern European nation is a shithole including Russia" = same rhetoric Russians use.

I mean I could believe it, Putin made it a crime punishable by half a decade in prison if you clown on Muslims or Jews in public but removed special protections from Christians...so them being a bunch of self hating clowns would just be more icing on my "Why you should let them all blow each other up" cake.


:ROFLMAO: Who said you were a shill? I could name a couple of shills off the top of my head, but I probably shouldn't.

You and Bacle repeatedly...Because you can't comprehend a third position which is.

"Let Europeans fend for themselves"

I honestly see the Cold War in much the same light. it is a shame we lacked the zeal seen later on during times it might have made more of a difference.

The moral of the entire cold war was.

"Abandoning Shek because nationalism made Europoors nervous was the worst mistake ever" and "Not keeping the Soviets out of the rest of the Americas while obsessing over Berlin cost us an entire ass American century."

Oh and "Never trust intelligence agencies and NGO's" but whatever.
 

Megadeath

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What intellectual dishonesty? I see absolutely nothing wrong with the imperialism of that era. It was Darwinian, it was natural and your ancestors just ran into a bigger, more efficient tribe of super predators.

But there's no point in denying that they'd have fed Zelensky his own entrails for the audacity. And brained any brave that had the temerity to fly another tribe's flag in their sacred spots.



No, they rampaged across the Americas forging empires using the flayed infants of their enemies as war banners. Like everyone else. There's no difference between your forefathers and the Vikings who raped Moscow into the ground and genetically replaced the Rus. There's no difference between a Lakota warchief and the commander of the Azov Battalion. Well except that Lakota's have culture and Eastern Europeans don't but whatever.

"They wouldn't stop at Ukraine!" when half of Russia doesn't have indoor plumbing and they have India and China on their doorstep and a pathetic ass GDP?



Yes, because he isn't 100% all in on the isolationism game.

The US can't continue to cling to a broken system that was subverted from them decades ago and survive as a nation.



I'm a victim of Russian propaganda despite calling them barbarians who shit in igloos, who don't really even have a civilization? For Gods sakes...take fucking stock of the absurdity coming out of your proverbial mouth.

I just told a Polish user if his people psyopped France into nuking Moscow I wouldn't care.

Calling me a Russian shill is the single most autistic thing you can possible do and its fucking absurd. In fact its so absurd it nullifies your post.

Stop saying ridiculous shit.



When the US only cared about the Americas, it became a monster able to throw every world power that tried to fuck with it out of its borders...including England and France when they tried to prolong the ACW to weaken whoever eventually won it.

It won't work because you'd be jobless.

That's not the same thing as it not working out for America.
Uh, ackshually, there was no ACW you retarded sheep. :rolleyes: Have you ever met anyone who was there? Everything you've ever read came from left wing experts, you know? Oh, you think there's primary sources? Who do you think "compiled" those? (More like concocted, amirite?) It's just a glowie psyop to make people believe in a weaker disunififed US, when in reality they have been stronk since got set them down on this flat Erf with a kiss and a pat on the head. All those people who claim their families were involved are just crisis actors or making stuff up to fit the delusional story from the MSM and controlled academia. It suits the drug addicts and donkey raping shit eaters toymaker people think america can be torn apart, so that they can succeed in their master plan to do it now, breaking the seventh seal and releasing gay anti-jesus. You need to educate yourself a little more and stop believing such obvious BS. Fucking ACW...Ya know, trump and his loyal qanon paladins would never fall for such stupid shit.
 

bintananth

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When the US only cared about the Americas, it became a monster able to throw every world power that tried to fuck with it out of its borders...including England and France when they tried to prolong the ACW to weaken whoever eventually won it.
The Monroe Doctrine in a nutshell ...

"Dear Europe, don't fuck with the Americas. You will regret it. Sincerly, The United States".

The US actually could and did back that up. One of the ACW battles took place just outside of Cherbourg, France in 1864.
 

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