Russia(gate/bot) Russia-Ukraine War Political Discussion

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AmosTrask

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According to the Russian narrative they are losing because they aren't fighting Ukraine. Ukraine is a puppet state controlled directly by America and it is America's soldiers fighting in Ukrainian uniforms that are winning against Russia.

Russian propaganda is as fantastical and confusingly nonsensical as worst acid trip imaginable.

I know for a fact if American troops were fighting Moscow would have fallen by the second month. When unencumbered by idiotic politics the American juggernaut gets things done.
 
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Cherico said:
The Russians are a very dour people who have never approved of horse play
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You were saying lol?
 
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planefag said:
Well, it's one thing to say that the Global Agenda is against Russia... but quite another for them to gloss over how Putin - despite making the West his avowed enemy and committing himself publicly to slaying that supposed dragon - has failed miserably and gotten his ass kicked in the process.

That's the part some people need to dwell on a little more.
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See it is because he is going against the west.

And how do we know he is losing? All media the west has said they are losing but Russian media says they are winning.
And the Western media lies and can't be trusted.
How do we know all the war crimes Russia has committed is actually the truth and not lies to further the globohomo agenda?

My point, vatniks will claim these things until Ukraine kicks Russia out of pre 2014 Ukraine and still claim it was because they are kind.
 
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AmosTrask said:
Vodka. A lot of government subsidized and promoted vodka.
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Russia's alcoholism problem is less severe than it was in the past, thankfully. But it still gets some Russian men to behave like idiots from time to time. :(

Interestingly enough, Russia's male life expectancy was severely hurt in the past (less so nowadays) due to alcoholism (among other things, such as suicides and homicides):

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Russian male life expectancy was at developed world levels in the early 1960s but then fell behind.
 
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AmosTrask said:
According to the Russian narrative they are losing because they aren't fighting Ukraine. Ukraine is a puppet state controlled directly by America and it is America's soldiers fighting in Ukrainian uniforms that are winning against Russia.

Russian propaganda is as fantastical and confusingly nonsensical as worst acid trip imaginable.

I know for a fact if American troops were fighting Moscow would have fallen by the second month. When unencumbered by idiotic politics the American juggernaut gets things done.
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...I'm not surprised, but this is just fucking hilarious all the same. This is North Korea levels of propaganda.

So, anyway, taking bets on when someone (bodyguard, general, whatever) just walks up behind Putin and shoots him in the head?
 
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AmosTrask

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WolfBear said:
Russia's alcoholism problem is less severe than it was in the past, thankfully. But it still gets some Russian men to behave like idiots from time to time. :(

Interestingly enough, Russia's male life expectancy was severely hurt in the past (less so nowadays) due to alcoholism (among other things, such as suicides and homicides):

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Russian male life expectancy was at developed world levels in the early 1960s but then fell behind.
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The government of Russia from the first Muscovite Tsar to today has always owned and subsidized liquor as a means of controlling the masses. It is also very profitable.

On another more depressing note. While we are focused on Ukraine Wagner under the FSB's (and therefore Putin) direction carrying out coups and setting up puppet governments in African countries with strategic resources. It's been an ongoing low-key operation for decades but has recently accelerated due to the losses in Ukraine. Fucking Fascist scum.
 
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Jormungandr

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AmosTrask said:
I hope so. Let's add the entire oligarchy, CCP leadership and bureaucracy, and the North Korean government.
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Unfortunately unrealistic. :( Still, Putin's chances of survival aren't good in that he's pissed off pretty much everyone in Russia bar the deluded die-hards/radicals. Russia's own military hates him.
 
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AmosTrask

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Hlaalu Agent said:
You better not be referencing what I think you are referencing.



I am 90% sure he is making a particular reference. Emphasis on the horse, and lesser emphasis on the play.
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He also meant horse play in the manner of Daniel Radcliffe's character in Equus.

PS: More direct hint. Outright Zoophilia or in layman's terms; beastiality.
 
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planefag said:
What you haven't explained is how it makes it unique. As if they wouldn't be stealing that money some other way if this war wasn't happening.
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... you... want to excuse literal theft on the basis of "if they weren't committing this crime, they would have committed a different crime. so we might as well forgive them"?

what?

this is insane troll logic right there.
 
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AmosTrask said:
According to the Russian narrative they are losing because they aren't fighting Ukraine. Ukraine is a puppet state controlled directly by America and it is America's soldiers fighting in Ukrainian uniforms that are winning against Russia.

Russian propaganda is as fantastical and confusingly nonsensical as worst acid trip imaginable.

I know for a fact if American troops were fighting Moscow would have fallen by the second month. When unencumbered by idiotic politics the American juggernaut gets things done.
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American soldiers would have done far worse than Ukrainian ones.
Ukraine has actual men fighting.
USA army is a bunch of women and men who think they are women and other such ridiculous nonsense.
On top of that the USA leadership is trash. Which is how they kept on losing wars to tribal primitives in the middle east.
 
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mrttao said:
... you... want to excuse literal theft on the basis of "if they weren't committing this crime, they would have committed a different crime. so we might as well forgive them"?

what?

this is insane troll logic right there.
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At what point did I say it was excusable? I'm saying you're a fucking vatnik who only pretends to give a shit when it's bad for Russia, and that will be my point of view until I see evidence to the contrary.
 
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planefag said:
At what point did I say it was excusable?
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I cannot facepalm enough.

> I stabbed this innocent person to death
> That is murder
> I never said the word murder!

see how absurd it is? you perform an action or describe a thing. and then other people say "this is X".

You did not use the word excuseable.
But you absolutely made excuses for them. Specifically the excuse that they would be stealing our money regardless. Which is a shit defense

planefag said:
I'm saying you're a fucking vatnik who only pretends to give a shit when it's bad for Russia, and that will be my point of view until I see evidence to the contrary.
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name calling is not an argument.

I explicitly said, repeatedly, that I am against all forms of redistribution both domestic and foreign.
I am against all welfare, I am against all foreign aid. full stop.

You are insisting that I am flat out lying. That I am saying I am against all of it but I am actually for it, and only against aid to ukraine. Because I am an <Enemy>

Here is an old post where I complain about govt spending as the number 1 problem. Without any mention of Ukraine aid
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There are MANY problems right now. But the biggest one is
medium.datadriveninvestor.com

The Most Important Money Statistic…. Ever.

So, you don’t have to be an economist to interpret this. I’ll explain it in layman’s terms without any fancy jargon.
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2020-01-06 dollars in circulation*: 3.984 trillion
2020-04-27 dollars in circulation*: 4.899 trillion
2020-05-04 dollars in circulation*: 15.982 trillion
2021-01-01 dollars in circulation*: 18.185 trillion
*according to the federal reserve:

that was 226% inflation in less than a month during 2020.
real actual inflation not the lies printed by media.
Total actual real 2020 inflation is 356% according to the feds own numbers.

Critically important is that on 2021-01-01 the federal reserve stopped sharing this information with the public! So any further real inflation is now a secret while they lie and claim it is "really only 8.5%" and controlled opposition outlets like fox news claim it is really 17%. It isn't. It was 356% in 2020 and a secret amount in 2021
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I have always been bitching about govt being too big, too strong, and too corrupt.
 
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AmosTrask said:
Catherine was one of the best administrators the Russians ever had as a Monarch.
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IMO actually she was simply "not bad". Her being one of the more competent and less crazy/stupid Russian monarchs makes me want to cry over how fucked the Russian people are ...
Jormungandr said:
So, anyway, taking bets on when someone (bodyguard, general, whatever) just walks up behind Putin and shoots him in the head?
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On one hand the war had been an evident case of "throwing good money after bad" since April or May latest, hence couping Putin should be on the agenda. Not having this happen by now might be viewed as surprising.
On the other hand, Stalin survived Barbarossa ...
 
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