So it is a combination of bribery and being utterly ostentatious?
Musk actually buys Twitter.
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So it is a combination of bribery and being utterly ostentatious?
Not any more than *pay itself* is "bribery".
Wargamer08
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It's subsidies for socialist employees and people bad at math.
They cost the company less then handing out money and letting the employees manage their own affairs due to efficiency of scale. The issues start when your workforce shrinks or enough don't care about subsidizing food and perks and would rather the cash.
well I would um just like to note.
They had wine on tap, has it ever been a good idea to have drunk employees?
By this logic, every single job in the country is bribing people to work by offering them money to do a job.
Okay so private companies offering their employees benefits is socialism now, too?
You people are so conditioned to hate twitter and big tech (believe me, I hate them too,) that you're just making senseless attacks. Completely senseless.
I hate the power they have too. I hate their censorship too. But calling amenities "bribes" and socialism is just ridiculous.
Every company offers "bribes." It's called a pay check. There is nothing wrong with offering additional amenities.
Now if you want to make the argument that the lavish nature of Twitter's amenities seem financially unfeasible, that's a good point. One that I agree with. Stop with this bribery abd socialism shit though.
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Typhonis
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The Royal navy did well with functionally drunk employees. RN Ration was 1 gallon of beer a day. Then again it was safe to drink.
bintananth
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Back then the only way to keep stored fresh water safe to drink for an extended period of time in a wooden cask was to add some alcohol to it.
The other option was boiling it before drinking it so you were sure it's safe. That required fires, which the RN kept to a minimum because the ships were waterproofed with tar or pitch and there was lots of gunpowder on board.
Be careful with that match ...
Bear Ribs
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Actually often a good idea. The US is way repressed when it comes to alcohol, but actual studies have shown that it increases problem-solving and creativity. Being blackout drunk doesn't work, obviously, but moderate intoxication to a mild buzz can be helpful and the presence of alcohol doesn't mean everybody's getting drunk. Hemingway rather famously said he liked to write standing up with a pencil in one hand and a drink in the other.
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The US Army used to have MRE beer for its soldiers.Actually often a good idea. The US is way repressed when it comes to alcohol, but actual studies have shown that it increases problem-solving and creativity. Being blackout drunk doesn't work, obviously, but moderate intoxication to a mild buzz can be helpful and the presence of alcohol doesn't mean everybody's getting drunk. Hemingway rather famously said he liked to write standing up with a pencil in one hand and a drink in the other.
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They got rid of it when they went to what they have now.
We don't have drinking in uniform anymore unless it is a ball.
That being said.
We made to with Caffien and nicotine
Wargamer08
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The only way it's financially viable for a company to offer perks like that is if everyone buys in. It becomes an opportunity cost for employees that don't have any interest in the perks.
If you're not interested in the perks, go work somewhere else
AnimalNoodles
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The royal navy began its rum ration under the belief it was better to be half drunk and on duty than fully drunk and awol.
By that argument, companies having health insurance is an oppressive opportunity cost for employees who aren't sick.
Doomsought
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It is, also it drastically increases the price of healthcare by artificially increasing demand and incentivizing secret negotiations of price.
Wargamer08
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If I can't opt-out? It totally is. I would be charged for a service/perk I would not want so that others might have a lower group rate.
LordsFire
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Health insurance is a blight upon the world.
I don't agree with the people here claiming the excessive benefits at Twitter are socialism; they're just that, excessive benefits, and excessive only because how apparently low-productivity so many employees were. If I had employees who were designing the world's first functioning space elevator, I'd be happy to give them benefits like that.
But health insurance has not only made actual health care more expensive, it's made it more time-consuming, more stressful, it acts as an additional shackle making it harder for people to change jobs, and it's been part of bloody well politicizing medicine.
All health insurance should be abandoned. Stick the money in a bank account instead, and in three years, enjoy prices on health care being 50-90% cheaper.
So, current situation can be summed up as:
1) Musk has gotten rid of 90% of twitter's workforce.
2) Twitter is still running perfectly fine. Maybe even better than it used to be because I'm now actually getting more stuff that I'm actually interested in in my feed than blue checkmarks that I hate (though I still get plenty of those).
1) Musk has gotten rid of 90% of twitter's workforce.
2) Twitter is still running perfectly fine. Maybe even better than it used to be because I'm now actually getting more stuff that I'm actually interested in in my feed than blue checkmarks that I hate (though I still get plenty of those).
posh-goofiness
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I'd like to go back to the practice of friendly societies.
Bear Ribs
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Hey, when remember when those two pranksters calling themselves Ligma and Johnson waited outside Twitter HQ with cardboard boxes and managed to completely sucker the media into believing they were freshly fired Twitter Employees?
Elon got in on the joke by fake "Rehiring" them and doing a photo. Well okay, that's a good joke. Except mainstream media, the ones responsible for keeping us informed by the way, still hadn't caught up with the joke. Consequently, The Hill: Rising decided to do a piece about how Ligma and Johnson still didn't look happy and they were worried about how Musk was treating his rehired employees and how desperate he is.
Elon got in on the joke by fake "Rehiring" them and doing a photo. Well okay, that's a good joke. Except mainstream media, the ones responsible for keeping us informed by the way, still hadn't caught up with the joke. Consequently, The Hill: Rising decided to do a piece about how Ligma and Johnson still didn't look happy and they were worried about how Musk was treating his rehired employees and how desperate he is.
Rising used to be a good show until Krystal and Saggar decided to leave and create Breaking Points. Then their new hosts were okay, until they left to join Breaking Points.
This time I feel like The Hill intentionally chose some people who suck for the new-new hosts, so they won't get poached by Breaking Points lol.