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bintananth

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To put the size of an ASh-62 into perspective. It's larger than a Rolls-Royce Merlin and here's a car which had a Merlin shoved into it:



An An-2 ain't a four-seat Cessna 172 with a 180hp 6L Lycoming O-360 that's larger and less powerful than what your car probably has.
 
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TheRejectionist

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What you guys would recommend for military aviation fiction audiobooks?

I am not in the mood to pick up an actual book due to my father suing me in Brazil. I am very occupied with legal paper already.

Sidenote of off topic good news : I do not know how, but my mother's chemo was extremely effective! They told her they could operate at least one of them out of her by the end of next month!
 
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TheRejectionist

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It's not fiction ...

Tony LeVier's biography Pilot is practically as unbelievable as some of the very true things I say here.

Sorry @bintananth I was too vague... I meant do you guys recommend any military aviation fiction audiobooks? I edited the previous post now.

What you guys would recommend for military aviation fiction audiobooks?

I am not in the mood to pick up an actual book due to my father suing me in Brazil. I am very occupied with legal paper already.

Sidenote of off topic good news : I do not know how, but my mother's chemo was extremely effective! They told her they could operate at least one of them out of her by the end of next month!
 

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Why replace the engine and avionics with "civilian" versions, though, especially the engines?
Less flight hours on the engines, and easier repairs going forward.

Replacing avionics probably includes taking out any remaining classified bits, and well, a storm chaser probably does need the firecontrol group for the GUA-8 which won't be there.
 

BF110C4

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Why replace the engine and avionics with "civilian" versions, though, especially the engines?
Only reason I can think of is that the Congress won't approve the sale with the current military systems, plus that way the remaining A-10 fleet won't lose the spare parts for the still active planes.

Edit: Plus what Bacle said...
 

TheRejectionist

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@BF110C4 @Bacle @bintananth @Doomsought @Carrot of Truth @PsihoKekec @ShadowArxxy @Zachowon @Husky_Khan @Sailor.X @paulobrito tagging you guys because you clearly know more than me on warbirds and maybe you could give some feedback...
This is an email I wrote to Ward Carroll, author of Punk's War, I suspect he didn't reply because my questions weren't for commercial inqueries... This website rocketreach.co/ward-carroll-email_25442338 gave me a few more email contacts but I am unsure if I should even try.

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Good day mister Carroll,

I apologize in advance for the long title,

I am I am an Italian Brazilian Humanities student from the Università degli Studi di Milano Statale in Milan currently working on my bachelor's thesis on how to teach English with Video Games as well as taking a very amateurish interest on military aviation, which unfortunately in my case it boils down to admiring military planes, scratching my head and commenting on how cool and sophisticated they look, same goes for fictional ones drawn or 3D models with just the addition on how realistic and well done they look.
My question is : are you aware of any videogames and similar (or blend of the two) that is used in military aviations schools, academies, trainings, programs universities with aerospace courses to teach English in that setting, both in NATO-countries, unaligned or other ? Currently the closest I came findings to my thesis subject are the following (and still marginally relevant to the thesis) :

https://www.kunsan.af.mil/News/Article/2058286/airman-uses-video-games-to-bridge-language-gap/

https://www.researchgate.net/public...Am_Serious_Games_in_Aviation_English_Training

Innovative assessment of aviation English in a virtual world: Windows into cognitive and metacognitive strategies | ReCALL | Cambridge Core

On a different note, currently I am meditating on putting down a science fiction horror story set in a near-ish future, but the first part I would enjoy is dogfights between two factions, and would love to set one scene over the skies of Trieste (to get a partial idea of how the city is here the Google results trieste - Google Search ) and the city's homonymous gulf ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Trieste) as well as the Greek city of Thessaloniki
I was wondering also if you had any insight on the feasibility (and how) of a spaceplane or sixth-generation jet fighter (or later generations)landing and taking off from the 12,280 m² surface of Trieste’s Piazza Unità d'Italia (English: Unity of Italy Square, https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piazza_Unità_d'Italia ) and if you think that in the near future ( like end of the 2020s to 2040s/2060s) or when will sixth generation fighters or spaceplanes be widely implemented it would be realistic to have air forces’ jet planes to be easy to control and air forces easy to train(without the use of artificial intelligence and whatnot), as well if it would be realistic in your opinion for someone (my main character) who initially wanted to become an English teacher to be then be a “guerrilla” military aviation-trained pilot to military interrogator ; I am trying to write a non-American-aligned perspective point of view, because I haven’t found military fiction (so far!) written from a non-American aligned side perspective.

I thank you in advance for your time,

Best regards,

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I asked this questions since I am working on my character https://www.the-sietch.com/index.ph...ator-apc-ifv-in-the-span-of-a-few-years.9221/ (to quote @PsihoKekec : "a modern day Sand den Glokta?") for this scenario : https://www.the-sietch.com/index.ph...-peoples-imperial-union-of-brazil.7249/page-2 .
 

Zachowon

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I know DCS is a accurate flight Sim.

The thing about games is that they can be put in diffrent languages
 

Zachowon

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I need unfortunatly, an actual academic article/book or something like that to put it in my thesis.
I mean from what I understand is that there have been articles about Ukrainians training on DCS, but that's about it.
Academic idk.
 

Spartan303

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Same way the super Hornet is totally just a upgraded hornet am i right?

in all honesty the Super Hornet never should have happened. The F-22 should have become the Navy's premier fighter while the Air Force went with the F-23 as its primary air dominance fighter. F-22s, F-23s and F-35s, all 5th Generation platforms, would now be our mainstay to usher us into the future.

Instead Congress just wanted to save a buck and so gave the Military slightly better than 'good enough' improved 4th generation frames. Saved a lot of money but has hampered our capabilities from what they should be.
 

Knowledgeispower

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in all honesty the Super Hornet never should have happened. The F-22 should have become the Navy's premier fighter while the Air Force went with the F-23 as its primary air dominance fighter. F-22s, F-23s and F-35s, all 5th Generation platforms, would now be our mainstay to usher us into the future.

Instead Congress just wanted to save a buck and so gave the Military slightly better than 'good enough' improved 4th generation frames. Saved a lot of money but has hampered our capabilities from what they should be.
Honestly probably would have been a blank sheet design than a F-22 derivative navalizing stuff is way harder than the other way around and in the early 90s the USN still was weary of stealth aircraft due to the A-12 Fiasco
 

Marduk

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in all honesty the Super Hornet never should have happened. The F-22 should have become the Navy's premier fighter while the Air Force went with the F-23 as its primary air dominance fighter. F-22s, F-23s and F-35s, all 5th Generation platforms, would now be our mainstay to usher us into the future.

Instead Congress just wanted to save a buck and so gave the Military slightly better than 'good enough' improved 4th generation frames. Saved a lot of money but has hampered our capabilities from what they should be.
Technically impossible. Navalized planes always have some design compromises related to this that Air Force would prefer not to deal with, usually related to structural weight\payload. There is a reason why F-35, despite being newer, is not as stealthy as F-22. The surface coating maintenance for F-22 is ridiculous, and doing it in the limited and more challenging conditions of carrier operations is practically impossible. Basically you could have had a stealth F-22 or naval F-22, but not a stealth naval F-22.
 

Spartan303

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Honestly probably would have been a blank sheet design than a F-22 derivative navalizing stuff is way harder than the other way around and in the early 90s the USN still was weary of stealth aircraft due to the A-12 Fiasco

Yes but by the early to mid 2000s those issues had largely been overcome. As we see today.
 

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