I was not aware of that, actually. I was under the impression the centaur class didn't have a secondary hull and the nacelle pylons connected directly to the saucer.
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I was not aware of that, actually. I was under the impression the centaur class didn't have a secondary hull and the nacelle pylons connected directly to the saucer.
Actually, it seems like the one in Resurgence is some kind of refit. The original version has that XBOX HUEG torpedo launcher secondary hull, not a deflector dish:
I can't rule out it being some weird STO variant though, especially now that Picard S2 has a bunch of STO ships in it.
I can't rule out it being some weird STO variant though, especially now that Picard S2 has a bunch of STO ships in it.
It's definitely not a 100% stock centaur. The hull color is different, it doesn't have the little greebles that the centaur does, and the nacelles are different.
The STO centaur is based on the onscreen design, and it uses the centaur as a miranda-tyoe ship, so most of them don't have a secondary hull.
Apparently Picard is a 3 season deal, but maybe they'll make a show with Rios and the Stargazer.
If anyone's familiar with SF Debris's "Janeway of Borg" nickname, given for her habit of assimilating rando misfits into the crew of Voyager, the newest episode of STO made that canon for mirror Janeway, who is both ex-Borg and runs around assimilating people into joining her side (sorta).
And now she's available as a boff, complete with ability to assimilate people. Oddly, this version of her is explicitly a hologram, so I'm not sure how that's supposed to work in universe.
And now she's available as a boff, complete with ability to assimilate people. Oddly, this version of her is explicitly a hologram, so I'm not sure how that's supposed to work in universe.
Typhonis
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An alternate take on the Enterprise. It is set up so that like on a modern rocket the down direction is created by the engine thrusting.
An alternate take on the Enterprise. It is set up so that like on a modern rocket the down direction is created by the engine thrusting.
Val the Moofia Boss
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I feel like if you're going to make a super hard sci fi design, you mind as well go all the way, like the Venture Star from Avatar, which had multiple methods of propulsion and such (deploys a sail that is pushed by a laser when leaving the Sol system and to stop when returning, uses fuel propellent engines to slow down towards the destination and to return towards Sol).
bintananth
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That'll only work in a setting where combat doesn't happen.I feel like if you're going to make a super hard sci fi design, you mind as well go all the way, like the Venture Star from Avatar, which had multiple methods of propulsion and such (deploys a sail that is pushed by a laser when leaving the Sol system and to stop when returning, uses fuel propellent engines to slow down towards the destination and to return towards Sol).
I think the big problem with the rocketprise is all the exposed greebling and cables and other bits, bits that federation ships generally do not have, and certainly do not have in this volume. It makes it look less like a star trek ship based on rocketry, and more like a rocket ship with some ST bits tacked on.
It also makes some of the Star Trek bits nonsensical. The Navigational Deflector, for instance, is clearly blocked by the hull. Even if that's supposed to be something else, like a sensor array... it's still blocked by the hull...
Star Trek: Picard actually started season 1 off pretty well, aside from its weird refusal to put its worldbuilding in the show itself and the fact that it was blind to anti-Romulan sentiment being completely justified in-universe by TNG, DS9, and VOY.
It just went to shit in the back half because Alex Kurtzman and the rest of the crew, including Michael Chabon, didn't think shit through early on and wound up whipping shit up on the fly. And literally everything they did was the fucking lamest, least hype thing imaginable.
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Dunno, I saw the first few episodes episode,and tbh it was pretty underwhelming and tried to do lots of stupid virtue signalling, like the whole android angle and the Mary Sue character and Romulan ninjas.
Trek died with Enterprise, IMHO.
Skallagrim
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I think that Trek already had issues with ending DS9 and Voyager in satisfactory ways. Although both still produced great episodes in their latter stages, I think DS9 made a critical error when they altered Dukat's character arc to make him chaotic evil (because they were afraid audience members found him too sympathetic). That really messed with the last season-and-a-half, and the fact that Terry Farrell had to be suddenly replaced for the last season was also bad. Plus, Pah-Wraiths were a really stupid idea, and the series ending was... meh. Voyager, meanwhile, was always hit-or-miss.
Voyager would have been well-served if they'd made a good, solid outline in advance and trimmed the whole series down to eliminate (roughly) a full season's worth of crappy episodes. Then, DS9 and Voyager could both have ended in 1999. And then they shouldn't have made any new Trek for a good, long time.
But Trek has always had this strange habit of overstaying its welcome, even when it's obviously a bad idea. Was The Undiscovered Country not the perfect ending for the original crew? Shouldn't that final shot of the Enterprise gliding off towards "the second star to the right, and straight on till morning" have been the last time we ever saw James T. Kirk and his crew?
But no, they had to make Generations.
We didn't need any TNG films, you know. The TOS saga could have ended in 1991, with The Undiscovered Country providing a fairly poignant coda to what was also the end of an era in the real world. TNG could have ended on the small screen, in 1994, as it should have (in what is still the best ending of any Trek series, really.) And DS9 and Voyager, as I mentioned could have ended in a more polished way, both in 1999.
All the stuff made as of 2001 is simply not even worth discussing. It should never have been made.
Voyager would have been well-served if they'd made a good, solid outline in advance and trimmed the whole series down to eliminate (roughly) a full season's worth of crappy episodes. Then, DS9 and Voyager could both have ended in 1999. And then they shouldn't have made any new Trek for a good, long time.
But Trek has always had this strange habit of overstaying its welcome, even when it's obviously a bad idea. Was The Undiscovered Country not the perfect ending for the original crew? Shouldn't that final shot of the Enterprise gliding off towards "the second star to the right, and straight on till morning" have been the last time we ever saw James T. Kirk and his crew?
But no, they had to make Generations.
We didn't need any TNG films, you know. The TOS saga could have ended in 1991, with The Undiscovered Country providing a fairly poignant coda to what was also the end of an era in the real world. TNG could have ended on the small screen, in 1994, as it should have (in what is still the best ending of any Trek series, really.) And DS9 and Voyager, as I mentioned could have ended in a more polished way, both in 1999.
All the stuff made as of 2001 is simply not even worth discussing. It should never have been made.
Typhonis
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Actually the navigational deflector is on the saucer where the bridge normally is so it isn't blocked by the hull.
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