Russian Invasion of Ukraine 2022
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SchrodingersWehraboo
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Posts that didn’t age well:
Tiamat
I've seen the future...
Oh, there's quite a few posts out there that haven't aged well at all, trust me.
“Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.” Attributed to Abraham Lincoln in Golden Book, Nov. 1931.
Floridaman
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To be fair they had to say that, it isn’t like anyone who isn’t an idiot thought they would last against Russia.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
What did he predict?
Putin giving recognition to parts of Ukraine that were separate countries in all but name for the better part of a decade and giving them aid?
The Ukrainians kept interfering with regions that told them long ago they had no desire to be part of Ukraine, instead they sent in nazi militias to harass them shelled and bombed them.
Not only that but the clown Zelensky decided to go on television and basically demand the Russians overthrow their own government.
The moron might have more brains than he lets on though, since he is basically outsourcing the extermination of his nazi/ultranationalist problem to the Russian armed forces.
What Ukraine should have done after Putin recognized those areas as sovereign officially is to relinquish their claim on them, pull their troops back, and maybe send an ambassador or two in.
That would have been a 'normal' civilized approach though, the nationalist probably would have killed Zelenski if he tried.
Instead they kept poking the bear.
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PsihoKekec
Swashbuckling Accountant
Got to hand it to the state department, it took them four months but they finally got Putin to stop blue balling us and shoot his load. Very inconsiderate of Russians to start the action while I'm asleep though.
It's hard to tell much from all the panicked rumours and disinformation. By the looks of it, the years of training, based on experience from Georgia war, paid off, while Russian ad suppression missions were completely ineffectual in 2008, they seem to be a success this time. Given the Ukrainian AD is 80s Soviet tech with minimum modifications, they were able to prepare themselves well. Of course it would be possible that Ukrainians played it smart and simply hid away most of their mobile AD assets, to play hide and seek games like Serbs did in 1999.
Ukrainian forces out in the open are going to get hammered badly, Russian motorifle and armored can break through into depth if their artillery is silenced, leaving the reduction of defended urban areas to Novorussia forces. We will see how well the Javelins perform against top of the line Russian armor, or if the Russians have counter to them, Syrians managed to develop TOW spoofing system, so Russians could also develop Javelin countermeasures - they probably got some from Ukraine via bribes.
The best Ukrainian units are holding the front line in Donbass, have extremely vulnerable flanks and could be easily cut into multiple pockets if left in place. The best move would be dispersed retreat to important crossroads and major urban centres and try to bleed Russians there, but Ukrainian high command showed persistent tendency to let their forces get encircled in 2014/15.
Taking Russia friendly areas like Donbass and Odesa would be relatively straightforward, but I reckon other major population centres will be merely blockaded, while major military formations and installations are destroyed as taking them would be too problematic.
It's hard to tell much from all the panicked rumours and disinformation. By the looks of it, the years of training, based on experience from Georgia war, paid off, while Russian ad suppression missions were completely ineffectual in 2008, they seem to be a success this time. Given the Ukrainian AD is 80s Soviet tech with minimum modifications, they were able to prepare themselves well. Of course it would be possible that Ukrainians played it smart and simply hid away most of their mobile AD assets, to play hide and seek games like Serbs did in 1999.
Ukrainian forces out in the open are going to get hammered badly, Russian motorifle and armored can break through into depth if their artillery is silenced, leaving the reduction of defended urban areas to Novorussia forces. We will see how well the Javelins perform against top of the line Russian armor, or if the Russians have counter to them, Syrians managed to develop TOW spoofing system, so Russians could also develop Javelin countermeasures - they probably got some from Ukraine via bribes.
The best Ukrainian units are holding the front line in Donbass, have extremely vulnerable flanks and could be easily cut into multiple pockets if left in place. The best move would be dispersed retreat to important crossroads and major urban centres and try to bleed Russians there, but Ukrainian high command showed persistent tendency to let their forces get encircled in 2014/15.
Taking Russia friendly areas like Donbass and Odesa would be relatively straightforward, but I reckon other major population centres will be merely blockaded, while major military formations and installations are destroyed as taking them would be too problematic.
Val the Moofia Boss
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After years of the media hyping up a Russian invasion, I had written it off as fearmongering. Never thought it would actually happen.
No idea what the politics are or who to believe or what would be best for the country. Praying for their safety. Let God's will be done.
No idea what the politics are or who to believe or what would be best for the country. Praying for their safety. Let God's will be done.
SchrodingersWehraboo
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Alexander Dugin claims the advance is going to include western Ukraine.
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
UkREKTna!
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
Trying to link up with Moldova maybe?
Agent23
Ни шагу назад!
This is an excellent chance for Romania and Hungary to grab areas of Ukraine with ethnic Hungarian and Romanian populations.
Stokmarkets going down!Gas prices in Europe spiking, oil spiking, palladium and wheat spiking.Fertilizers to spike soon.
Silver going up(silver is IMHO the next crypto/big tech)
Prepare to pay a hell of a lot more for energy and food.
OPEC/UAE/Saudis already said that they will not/can not make up supply losses due to this.
Great job letting a few fleas inhabiting the tail of one mongrel mutt wag the whole pack of dogs, West!
Now excuse me, got to see how my investments are moving, because the Bog-Tzar is probably making me rich!
Also, the delusions of the GloboHomo/WEF cabal are now DoA!
Stokmarkets going down!Gas prices in Europe spiking, oil spiking, palladium and wheat spiking.Fertilizers to spike soon.
Silver going up(silver is IMHO the next crypto/big tech)
Prepare to pay a hell of a lot more for energy and food.
OPEC/UAE/Saudis already said that they will not/can not make up supply losses due to this.
Great job letting a few fleas inhabiting the tail of one mongrel mutt wag the whole pack of dogs, West!
Now excuse me, got to see how my investments are moving, because the Bog-Tzar is probably making me rich!
Also, the delusions of the GloboHomo/WEF cabal are now DoA!
Didn't you notice that Russia has rebel provinces all around the place, and any attempt to dislodge them is met with an instant invasion, totes justified to "protect the local population from oppression"? Remember Georgia 2008? Pepperidge Farm remembers.
I got this weird idea in my head of the Ukrainians forcing a surrender of the Russian forces in Transnistria before Moldavia demands they leave in 'outrage' to which the Ukrainians shrug and go 'Bruh' and hands over the now free of Russian troops territory amid whining from Moscow.
strunkenwhite
Well-known member
Jesus Christ. NATO does not operate this way.
And let this forum not forget your celebration of this war.
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
I don’t think Ukraine has the troops to spare for that.
The "normal civilized approach" is to surrender sovereign territory any time a neighboring country demands it?
don't know in what kind of civilization you're living in, but I sure wouldn't trade places with you.
Transnistria only has 1,500 Russian troops on a regular day, but it would depend on how the Militia of 10,000 which the country has as an army assist or just stays out of it.
I don't think it's likely, but the idea is funny to imagine.
Arlos
Sad Monarchist
It’s less about the numbers of troops here than about the fact that all Ukrainian forces already have their hands full fighting a numerically superior enemy everywhere, I don’t think Ukraine can afford reshuffling the thousands of troops this would need, especially with the sky in Russian hands.