China Wuhan Virus Pandemic

Vaermina

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Irish government data suggests young people risk from vaccine is GREATER than their risk of death from Covid19. Twitter bans sharing of the data.

No, actually Irish Government Data doesn't suggest that, the random twitter person just doesn't understand how to read medical data...

Also, you're purposefully misrepresenting the "Johnson and Johnson" vaccine as all vaccines.

That said, I will explain to you random twitter persons error.

He's reading "Very Rare" to mean "1 in 10,000" because that's what's shown on the short hand leaflet. The problem is "Very Rare" doesn't mean that, it's a medical label that actually means "< 1 in 10,000". Now the actual scientifically measured risk for blood clots with the JJ vaccine is somewhere around 1 in 500,000. And that's across all age ranges, not just those below X age.

This is important because only 30% of those cases occurred in people below the age of 30. Which means at 25 and below you have a roughly 1 in 1,666,666 chance of blood clots vs a 1 in 500,000 chance of death. So basically a three times higher chance of dying from Covid then from one of the inactivated virus vaccines.

Note, you don't actually have to take one of the inactivated virus vaccines and can instead take one of the mRNA vaccines who have 0 chance to cause blood clots.
 

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This is so much worse than people think. It’s more than just Fauci and the NIH/NIAID. The DOD, USAID, and DHS are all involved.




Why are the DTRA - the Defense Threat Reduction Agency - giving tens of millions of our taxpayer dollars to a PLA-run bioweapon lab? Are they the Defense Threat Increasing Agency, or what?
 
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Arch Dornan

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This is so much worse than people think. It’s more than just Fauci and the NIH/NIAID. The DOD, USAID, and DHS are all involved.




Why are the DTRA - the Defense Threat Reduction Agency - giving tens of millions of our taxpayer dollars to a PLA-run bioweapon lab? Are they the Defense Threat Increasing Agency, or what?

When I first heard of China accusing the US of making the virus I didn't believe it. But when that hack Fauci and that gain of function bullshit came up holy biohazard shit is this deep.

Their accusation is right. Part of the US paid for offshore research to skip the ethics redtape.
 

*THASF*

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When I first heard of China accusing the US of making the virus I didn't believe it. But when that hack Fauci and that gain of function bullshit came up holy biohazard shit is this deep.

Their accusation is right. Part of the US paid for offshore research to skip the ethics redtape.

There was a moratorium on this gain-of-function work being conducted with federal funding between 2014 and 2017. They outsourced it to bypass the moratorium, using Peter Daszak and EcoHealth Alliance to launder the money.


The NIH, DTRA, and USAID all footed the bill for it, and the Department of Homeland Security funded a network of experts and fact-checkers to debunk the lab-leak theory.

Peter Daszak was on the WHO investigator team, he penned a letter in the Lancet decrying the lab leak theory, and he was also a Facebook fact-checker.

The experts are all the same people involved with the outsourced research; a huge conflict of interest.
 

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BlackDragon98

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@Reveille just because the US Government supplied money does not make the US at fault for this.
This is about the funniest thing I've seen all day.

How involved do you want the US Gov. to be before you admit something?

I know, as a employee of the US Gov. you have to defend their reputation, but you really should draw a line somewhere.

Otherwise you're gonna end up as one of those US soldiers firing on your own people.
 

Zachowon

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This is about the funniest thing I've seen all day.

How involved do you want the US Gov. to be before you admit something?

I know, as a employee of the US Gov. you have to defend their reputation, but you really should draw a line somewhere.

Otherwise you're gonna end up as one of those US soldiers firing on your own people.
A government agency with money given to it for what ever purpose it wants is not the same as the government backing it
 

BlackDragon98

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A government agency with money given to it for what ever purpose it wants is not the same as the government backing it
So you're basically admitting that the US Gov. is not longer (has it ever?) capable of controlling it's own government agencies?

because that would explain a lot of the sussy stuff that's been going on for the past 75+ years.
 

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@Reveille just because the US Government supplied money does not make the US at fault for this.
A government agency with money given to it for what ever purpose it wants is not the same as the government backing it
Dude, just stop with these kneejerk defenses of the US gov and US military.

The revelations about the lab funding via Fauci and US agencies, how it was done to bypass a research moratorium in the US, and how deeply the people involved are embedded in the 'experts/'fact-checkers'...

The CCP may have let the damn thing escape the lab, but it wouldn't have been getting messed with, without US funding via multiple agencies/intermediaries.

The US does bear some blame for this virus/pandemic, unfortunately, because it was our money that funded the research, and our agencies which outsourced the work to the CCP. I'd say the US gov bears about 30-40% responsibility for this mess, particularly that fraud Fauci and whoever in the State Dept authorized this BS.
 

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So China is innocent and we are the reason COVID exists then.
Because that is what is basically being claimed. The US is responsible for this. Which basically turns the world off China and onto us
 

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So China is innocent and we are the reason COVID exists then.
Because that is what is basically being claimed. The US is responsible for this. Which basically turns the world off China and onto us
Dude, that isn't what anyone is saying, and you know it, you just say shit like that put of spite to try to twist others arguments.

It was the CCPs shit safety meausures, or lack there of, which caused this virus to get loose. However the revelations about US funding channels mean that those agencies and individuals who authorized outsourcing the research to the CCP do bear some blame for this shit.

It's an ugly, bitter pill to swallow, but it's the truth, and admitting we had a part in it does not absolve the CCP of what they allowed to happen.

I'd be perfectly fine putting Xi on trial as a co-defendent of Fauci, or vis versa.
 

Zachowon

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Dude, that isn't what anyone is saying, and you know it, you just say shit like that put of spite to try to twist others arguments.

It was the CCPs shit safety meausures, or lack there of, which caused this virus to get loose. However the revelations about US funding channels mean that those agencies and individuals who authorized outsourcing the research to the CCP do bear some blame for this shit.

It's an ugly, bitter pill to swallow, but it's the truth, and admitting we had a part in it does not absolve the CCP of what they allowed to happen.

I'd be perfectly fine putting Xi on trial as a co-defendent of Fauci, or vis versa.
Letting the claim the US funded Wuhan, basically makes it that the US caused COVID.
 

Bacle

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Letting the claim the US funded Wuhan, basically makes it that the US caused COVID.
Well, maybe our gov shouldn't have outsouced the research it was barred from doing here to the CCP, and then tried to pretend the paper trail didn't exist when people found it, if we didn't want some of the blame.

The CCP is the reason the Wu Flu is outside a lab, it was their safety measures that failed.

But there is now legit link between US gov agencies/funding proxies and the Wuhan Lab and even specifically the gain-of-function research we could not legally do in the US.
 

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