Why do you think it’s up 10x? Why do you think we are arresting 30x as many? Biden promised them all citizenship if they can cross the border before amnesty is passed. It’s like if you started a fire in your own house, are throwing water on the fire, and you’re going and saying “wow, this guy is such a great firefighter! The last guy who owned this house never even put out any fires at all!”
It's 100% because during the campaign and all that, Biden was talking a soft game on immigration. They've interviewed and asked the migrants and they've outright said they're coming because they thought Biden would be nicer.
No, I specifically accepted litterally everything you've claimed so far. How did you miss that? If they're following the exact same policy, sure seems pretty stupid for people to rail against Biden's position compared to Trump's though, don't you think?
I don't think those numbers, I don't have any particular attachment to them. I'm purely using what other posters have said. I'd love to see the bit where Biden promised that, I somehow missed it. Also, that's just a dumb analogy at the end, because illegal border crossing is an issue both administrations have faced while your "analogy" has one person facing a problem the other didn't.
And they were apparently wrong. Is Biden responsible for how people construe his intentions, or do his actual actions speak louder?
Well yes, he literally said “everyone who’s here illegally right now, ima give you all citizenship.” Citizenship means you get welfare, and if you commit crimes you don’t get deported. What that means is you have a time limit to get here. What we are getting are the dregs of societies who can’t make it in their own shithole countries crossing enmasse to get what we have here.
He’s facing a problem he caused lol. Mkay, so one had a house fire he put out easily and then the other is fighting an inferno that he is the cause of. Better?
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He’s responsible for telling them that he will give them all citizenship. It takes two brain cells to realize that will increase border crossings. These arrests are also catch and release lol. They’re being arrested and then let loose in the country.
To follow friend's metaphor.
That is not actually what you claimed he'd said. There's a big difference between pushing a vague bill on congress that would create a path to citizenship for some or all illegals, and promising amnesty to anyone who gets here in time.
He’s responsible for telling them that he will give them all citizenship, These arrests are also catch and release. They’re being arrested and then let loose in the country.
It’s the same thing dummy. You don’t think it would be stupid easy, with amnesty promised to all “11” (been the same number for like two decades) million illegals, to cross to say “oh hey I was also here when that was promised?” I mean the PC term is undocumented lol. It does not take a genius to understand that will increase crossings as people try and get the promised golden tickets. I also see you completely ignored that the arrests are completely different than they were before. We used to send them back to the shithole they came from, and now we are letting them go free in the country and hoping that they will somehow show up for court.
I didn't mean to ignore anything, but I did miss that. Sure didn't sound from the fox article like they were releasing known rapists and pedophiles into the community, but I'm sure you've got evidence for that too?
Man gets up on giant stage in front of the whole world and vows to give every illegal immigrant in the US citizenship. “He didn’t promise citizenship to anyone”
It’s vastly softer because of catch and release.
Nearly identical, Trump wasn't big in catch and release, they're still following very similar policy other than that.
Yeah, except that's not what he said. It's a gross oversimplification.
Honestly, I don't love the idea of "catch and release" but it's one of several bad options. It's also hardly a blanket thing, rather it only applies to a small fraction.
Seems unlikely to me, but why do you think so?
In my personal opinion, Trump's Border Security policies was working.
Because there is a correlation between allowing more people in, with increased criminals entering and more kids in cages.
Have you guys just not read the conversation at all? Apart from a return to catch and release, which Trump also followed until 2019 Biden's policy in this regard is the same as the Trump administration's was.
So...the increase in numbers means Biden is doing bettwr?
you are right to a degree, actual policy wise the establishment GOP and Democrat positions are both pretty trash. Both are in essence fine with annihilating our nation via immigration, it’s really just a question of at what rate we do it and how many illegal vs legal we let in. They really did not want to just build a fucking wall with plenty of armed security, and defend it like Israel does. Both parties will happily help them have a secured border though, and even though they have a Gentiles not welcome sign on their immigration office since their beginning, that’s perfectly acceptable to both establishments, but both establishments would consider that evil for both those policies to be advocated for America.