Operation Martin 1944

sillygoose

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Herbstnebel was created as an alternative to Wacht am Rhein, Adolf Hitler's plan to seize Antwerp and bottle up all Allied forces in Belgium and the Netherlands. Model, along with all the other senior commanders involved, believed this was unachievable given Germany's limited resources at the time. Thus he devised a less ambitious scenario that would not cross the Meuse, but still deliver a sharp defeat to the Allies. Like Wacht am Rhein, Model's attack would be launched in the Ardennes sector, but would then turn north instead of continuing west and northwest.[1]

Field Marshal Gerd von Rundstedt commanding OB West, had come up with a similar plan, Fall Martin ("Case Martin"). Von Rundstedt's plan called for a two-pronged attack instead of a single thrust, but in both plans the area of operations remained east of the Meuse. Model and von Rundstedt combined their plans to present a joint solution to Hitler, called by Model the "small solution". Hitler rejected it in favour of his "big solution", which formed the basis for the Battle of the Bulge.

Situation map on December 16th 1944 at noon:

What if Hitler had accepted Model and Rundstedt's 'Small Solution' instead of his OTL Ardennes offensive?
It would involve and offensive from the 15th army around the Roermond area with two infantry divisions and 2 armored divisions initially (more to follow) and a southern pincer that would move north to pocket forces in the Aachen area.

Largely it would involve the same forces as OTL, but differently deployed. For instance the German 7th army in the south would only cover the northern most part of Luxembourg rather than the central part IOTL, 5th panzer army would focus solely on the 106th division, and 6th panzer army would strike north through Kesternich and Monschau with armored divisions in addition to infantry, rather than just a couple of infantry divisions IOTL.

Seemingly it would be a much better option than the OTL plan, as the northern pincer would tie down vital US reserves like the 7th armored division that would have otherwise showed up at St. Vith, same with 30th division. Meanwhile in the south the US 78th division won't simply face a single worn out Volksgrenadier division (which IOTL inflicted a lot of damage on them at Kesternich), instead also a Panzer division, same with the cavalry group at Monschau. Pieper would also be tasked with turning north instead of continuing west to the Meuse, so could hit some critically vulnerable areas that he bypassed historically:
From Christer Bergstrom's "Ardennes Offensive":
In Büllingen, Peiper’s Kampfgruppe stood only slightly more than a mile south of Wirtzfeld. Had Peiper been allowed to make just a small deviation from the assigned march route to capture this location—which his task force without any doubt could have accomplished in a couple of hours—the road would have been opened to the 12. SS- Panzer-Division, which thus had been spared the costly battle of the ’twin villages’ Rocherath and Krinkelt (see pp. 191). Such a maneuver also would have enabled the two panzer divisions of the I. SS-Panzerkorps to carry out a pincer movement to surround and annihilate both U.S. 2nd and 99th Infantry divisions. This in turn would probably have resulted in a total collapse for the U.S. defenses in the sector assigned to the 6. SS- Panzerarmee, possibly allowing Sepp Dietrich’s troops to reach the Meuse within a couple of days. Moreover, von der Heydte’s paratroopers could have been relieved. But, as we have seen, Hitler had made it quite clear to the 6. SS-Panzerarmee that on no condition was it allowed to deviate from the assigned march route, and hence, Peiper continued westwards.
U.S. 2nd Infantry Division’s commander, Major General Robertson, felt a moment of strong anxiety. Early on the morning of 17 December he phoned the commandant of the Division’s Special Troops and told him that the Germans had broken through, and wanted him to get every man he could bring up—even cooks, truck drivers, and clerks—to form a last ditch defense of the command post. These were the troops that Sternebeck’s tanks had encountered north of Büllingen. But as the feared German attack from the south never materialized, Robertson soon was able to concentrate on the defense of the ’twin villages’ Rocherath and Krinkelt.

From the US army official history of the Bulge:
The advance guard of the 1st SS Panzer Division had reached Büllingen on the early morning of 17 December, by its presence threatening the open right flank and the rear of the 99th Division. Although the German armored column veered southwest, under the eyes of the astonished Americans, the presence of the enemy this deep within the bare south flank was a cause of grave concern to General Lauer and later to General Robertson. Through the morning only a handful of engineers and headquarters personnel, backed up with single tank destroyer and antiaircraft pieces, stood in the way of a German dash north across the American rear. But the 1st SS Panzer, intent on objectives far to the west, failed to make this play.3 A platoon of Mark IV tanks did scout the Butgenbach road but withdrew when three were destroyed by the few guns of Company B, 612th Tank Destroyer Battalion emplaced near Dom Butgenbach.

Basically the areas east and north of Peiper were virtually undefended on the 17th and had he taken advantage of that it would have imploded the defenses of Elsenborn ridge before they even got set up. That virtually guarantees a breakthrough on the southern flank of the Aachen bulge and really screws the US 1st and 9th armies:
The bulk of the fourteen divisions under First U.S. Army command on 16 December were deployed north of the Belgian Ardennes. Behind them, roughly in the triangle formed by the cities of Liège, Verviers, and Spa, lay the supply installations built up through the autumn to support the advance toward the Rhine. At Spa, which had served the German Emperor as headquarters in World War I, the First Army had established its command post surrounded on every side by service installations, supply dumps, and depots. Liège, twenty miles northwest of Spa, was one of the greatest American supply centers on the Continent. Verviers, an important and densely stocked railhead lay eleven miles north of Spa. (See Map I.)

If that falls the entire 1st and 9th armies are cut off from all supply, as per the US quartermasters history of WW2 it was the basic/intermediate/advanced supply dump zone for both armies and had 45 days supplies for 900,000 men:
Actually, despite optimism all through the autumn, there were no outstanding Allied successes until March 1945, and meanwhile the lack of a supply system echeloned in depth hampered support for the combat forces. The most serious deficiency was at Liège. For lack of a base installation at Antwerp, this site had to function simultaneously as base, intermediate, and advance depot all winter.
At Liège, eight million gallons of gasoline were lined along the Meuse River for two miles.
Liège Depot controlled warehouses and open storage scattered across the entire width of Belgium from Herbesthal westward to Givet, France.

Starting on the 21st of December they started evacuating supplies, so they'd have largely remained where they were during this ATL breakthrough and be overrun:
In the First Army area, largely in Belgium, POL stocks were evacuated from the main reserve dumps between Spa and Stavelot, the Welkenraedt Class I dump was completely evacuated, and four thousand tons of Class II and IV items were removed from Eupen. Meanwhile First Army was supplied directly from Liège, which was closer to many army truckheads and railheads than the relocated army depot near Gembloux.74

I'm leaving out substantial details though, but I'm curious what the other posters here think about what would happen if this operation were launched and 1st and 9th US armies are cut off along with the British XXX corps east of the Meuse and lose their supply depots in the process, which would be west of the breakthrough point for the Panzer armies moving up from the Ardennes.
 

BlackDragon98

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At this point, Hitler's on so many drugs I doubt he even conscious of Germany situation.
Take him off drugs for 2 weeks (shoot Morell in the meantime) and he'll probably agree to the "small solution".
 

sillygoose

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At this point, Hitler's on so many drugs I doubt he even conscious of Germany situation.
Take him off drugs for 2 weeks (shoot Morell in the meantime) and he'll probably agree to the "small solution".
We do have several accounts of Hitler's behavior at this time and he wasn't nearly that bad, in fact multiple people close to him described him as quite lucid until the last month of his life, though not necessarily making the best decisions. If anything it was the lasting damage done by the bomb that had a negative impact on him.
 

History Learner

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These are losses the U.S. just can't shrug off at this point:
Late in January the theater estimated that the shortage of infantrymen within the armies alone totaled 82,000, of which nearly 50,000 were in riflemen.105 The outlook for the future was hardly encouraging despite the special efforts now being made. Earlier in the month the War Department had again relented somewhat, revising its capabilities upward to 44,000 men for May and 46,000 in June. To achieve these figures, however, it noted that it would have to call upon the Army Air Forces for an additional 15,000 men. These would consist largely of students in training for air crews and of highly trained technicians, and the Army Air Forces warned that their transfer would seriously affect air operations in the European theater. The War Department preferred not to make these withdrawals. ETOUSA manpower officials insisted on the additional replacements, however, pointing out that the theater's conversion capabilities would begin to diminish after June.

To also head off a possible point, there was no prospect at this time for nuclear attacks on Germany:

REPORTER: General Groves, could we go back for a minute. You mentioned in your book [Now it Can Be Told] that just before the Yalta Conference that President Roosevelt said if we had bombs before the European war was over he would like to drop them on Germany. Would you discuss this?​
GROVES: At the conference that Secretary Stimson and myself had with President Roosevelt shortly before his departure, I believe it was December 30th or 31st of 1944, President Roosevelt was quite disturbed over the Battle of the Bulge and he asked me at that time whether I could bomb Germany as well as Japan. The plan had always been to bomb Japan because we thought the war in Germany was pretty apt to be over in the first place and in the second place the Japanese building construction was much more easily damaged by a bomb of this character than that in Germany. I urged President Roosevelt that it would be very difficult for various reasons.​
The main one was that the Germans had quite strong aerial defense. They made a practice, as every nation does, that when a new plane came into the combat area, that they would run any risk that they could to bring such a plane down so that they could examine it and see what new ideas had come in so that they could make improvements and also would know the characteristics of the plane so that they could prepare a better defense against it. We had no B-29’s in Europe. If we had sent over a small squadron or group as we did against Japan of this type, everyone of them would have been brought down on the first trip to Germany. If they hadn’t been, it would have been through no lack of effort on the part of the Germans.​
The alternative would be to bring a large number of B-29’s over to to England and that would have been a major logistical task and the other possibility would have been to have used a British plane which would not have been a bit pleasing to General Arnold and also would have created a great many difficulties for our general operation because then it would be an Allied operation with the United States furnishing the bombs and everything connected with it but using a British plane and a British crew to actually drop the bomb and it would have raised a tremendous number of difficulties.​
And difficulties like that — while you say you should be able to handle that — you can but in a project of this character there are so many little things, each one of them key, that you can’t afford to throw any more sand into the wheels that you can help.​
The bombing of Germany with atomic bombs was, I would say, never seriously considered to the extent of making definite plans but on this occasion I told the President, Mr. Roosevelt, why it would be very unfortunate from my standpoint, I added that of course if the President — if the war demanded it and the President so desired, we would bomb Germany and I was so certain personally that the war in Europe would be over before we would be ready that you might say I didn’t give it too much consideration.​
 

BlackDragon98

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We do have several accounts of Hitler's behavior at this time and he wasn't nearly that bad, in fact multiple people close to him described him as quite lucid until the last month of his life, though not necessarily making the best decisions. If anything it was the lasting damage done by the bomb that had a negative impact on him.

Lots of really, really awful stuff, and Hitler took this shit on a daily basis.

The injections were not in large amounts each time, but Hitler took those injections daily. If you examine his personality and decision-making from the beginning of his career in the early 1920s to 1945, you will notice a drastic shift in his actions after 1941, when his use of Morell's injections increased significantly and his mental state began to decline.

One of the things administered to Hitler by Morell after the 1944 bomb attempt was something Morell claimed was topical penicillin but was almost certainly not and was probably very harmful to Hitler's health. That and an increase in injections after the 1944 attempt is what caused him to go south, not the bomb itself.
 

sillygoose

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Lots of really, really awful stuff, and Hitler took this shit on a daily basis.

The injections were not in large amounts each time, but Hitler took those injections daily. If you examine his personality and decision-making from the beginning of his career in the early 1920s to 1945, you will notice a drastic shift in his actions after 1941, when his use of Morell's injections increased significantly and his mental state began to decline.

One of the things administered to Hitler by Morell after the 1944 bomb attempt was something Morell claimed was topical penicillin but was almost certainly not and was probably very harmful to Hitler's health. That and an increase in injections after the 1944 attempt is what caused him to go south, not the bomb itself.
Without a doubt the injections did have an impact, but the wikipedia article is not really all that correct about the frequency of consumption. His medical history was covered in the book "Blitzed" about the use of Pervatin in Germany before and during the war and there is a chapter on Hitler's drug use, which wasn't nearly as bad as usually claimed. It wasn't good of course, but Hitler was generally lucid. The big difference in Hitler's decision making after 1941 was mostly to do with the war expanding and not knowing how to deal with it, a topic well covered in the "Germany and the Second World War" series. Certainly the drug use didn't help, nor did the bomb, and certainly surrounding himself with yes-men was a massive handicap.

Nevertheless this is all a digression from the main point of the thread, what would have happened if Hitler had agreed to Rundstedt/Model's combined proposal for the offensive rather than the 'Grand Slam' option Hitler chose IOTL.
 

sillygoose

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Thanks for those links. I had seen the first one, but the 2nd one is new, which is really interesting. I'd just add that with the bomb only being deployable in August of 1945, that would be FAR too late to matter given the political consequences of such a defeat.

Assuming that the Op. Martin plan worked as advertised, it would have inflicted >800,000 casualties on the Wallies (90% of which would be American); for comparison IOTL during the entire period from June 1944-May 1945 the US suffered about 552,000 casualties in Europe including the OTL BotB. So 145% of total US casualties for the worst part of the war for the US inflicted in a single battle. I don't know how the Wallies could even continue the war at that point, if not solely for the reason of public shock, political fallout, and demand for the return of the several hundred of thousand of PoWs that would result from this defeat. For comparison there were only 94,000 US PoWs in Europe from 1941-45 and a huge chunk of that was from OTL BotB.
 

BlackDragon98

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"In Büllingen, Peiper’s Kampfgruppe stood only slightly more than a mile south of Wirtzfeld. Had Peiper been allowed to make just a small deviation from the assigned march route to capture this location—which his task force without any doubt could have accomplished in a couple of hours—the road would have been opened to the 12. SS- Panzer-Division, which thus had been spared the costly battle of the ’twin villages’ Rocherath and Krinkelt (see pp. 191). Such a maneuver also would have enabled the two panzer divisions of the I. SS-Panzerkorps to carry out a pincer movement to surround and annihilate both U.S. 2nd and 99th Infantry divisions. This in turn would probably have resulted in a total collapse for the U.S. defenses in the sector assigned to the 6. SS- Panzerarmee, possibly allowing Sepp Dietrich’s troops to reach the Meuse within a couple of days. Moreover, von der Heydte’s paratroopers could have been relieved. But, as we have seen, Hitler had made it quite clear to the 6. SS-Panzerarmee that on no condition was it allowed to deviate from the assigned march route, and hence, Peiper continued westwards."

This needs only a small change. A simple order from Hitler. "Reach the Meuse by any means possible."
Let Kampfgruppe Peiper adjust their plans based on the situation and they will succeed.

Everything started going downhill for Germany starting 1941, when Hitler took direct control of the war.
Before that, everything was going well for German, as their Auftragstakik allowed a much greater degree of flexibility and independence.
And it's not just a proven strategy. In the Art of War, Sun Tzu explicitly states that the head of state should not interfere with the general in the field after the operation has begun because he is not fully aware of the changing conditions and situation at the front.
Hitler broke that rule and Nazi Germany paid the price.
 

sillygoose

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"In Büllingen, Peiper’s Kampfgruppe stood only slightly more than a mile south of Wirtzfeld. Had Peiper been allowed to make just a small deviation from the assigned march route to capture this location—which his task force without any doubt could have accomplished in a couple of hours—the road would have been opened to the 12. SS- Panzer-Division, which thus had been spared the costly battle of the ’twin villages’ Rocherath and Krinkelt (see pp. 191). Such a maneuver also would have enabled the two panzer divisions of the I. SS-Panzerkorps to carry out a pincer movement to surround and annihilate both U.S. 2nd and 99th Infantry divisions. This in turn would probably have resulted in a total collapse for the U.S. defenses in the sector assigned to the 6. SS- Panzerarmee, possibly allowing Sepp Dietrich’s troops to reach the Meuse within a couple of days. Moreover, von der Heydte’s paratroopers could have been relieved. But, as we have seen, Hitler had made it quite clear to the 6. SS-Panzerarmee that on no condition was it allowed to deviate from the assigned march route, and hence, Peiper continued westwards."

This needs only a small change. A simple order from Hitler. "Reach the Meuse by any means possible."
Let Kampfgruppe Peiper adjust their plans based on the situation and they will succeed.

Everything started going downhill for Germany starting 1941, when Hitler took direct control of the war.
Before that, everything was going well for German, as their Auftragstakik allowed a much greater degree of flexibility and independence.
And it's not just a proven strategy. In the Art of War, Sun Tzu explicitly states that the head of state should not interfere with the general in the field after the operation has begun because he is not fully aware of the changing conditions and situation at the front.
Hitler broke that rule and Nazi Germany paid the price.
In terms of this specific instance the issue was of the goal itself and not knowing how dogged US defense would be once 12th SS forces were inserted into the battle. Yes, Hitler was a problem in terms of ordering specific tactics and what not, but Peiper was given a VERY specific mission and for it to be fulfilled couldn't deviate any more than absolutely necessary from it, even to help another division. It was also thought that by continuing on the disorder it created deep in American lines would have the same impact anyway, which events proved to be incorrect.

As to the meta issue around Hitler's control freaking, I agree with you, but that's not pertinent to the thrust of this thread. The specific problem you're referencing would be solved even with Hitler being Hitler by the overall strategy being to head north and cut across this area anyway, so rather than Peiper having to defy orders, his route of march would take him right into this US vulnerability inadvertently. So right there the key defensive victory in OTL Battle of the Bulge is effectively eliminated by butterflies from this POD and with it the ability to stop the southern pincer.

Coupled with the 12th SS division not having to advance through Krinkelt per OTL, but rather to blast through Monschau to Eupen (where a supply dump was and the V Corps HQ) over a weak US defensive force (there was only a single US infantry battalion and a recon squadron, though reinforced by artillery and what not, defending the area that covered over 12 miles) and the entire defense basically crumbles.

On top of that there is also the 272nd VG division plus another panzer division (probably Panzer Lehr division) that would have been attacking north from Simmerath toward Aachen (IOTL on the 15th the 272nd had destroyed an entire battalion of the understrength US 78th division which was only in combat for the very first time since December 13th and had detached an entire regiment to help a neighboring division), which further would trap VII corps forces in the Aachen pocket and cut them off from their supply lines.
 

History Learner

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Thanks for those links. I had seen the first one, but the 2nd one is new, which is really interesting. I'd just add that with the bomb only being deployable in August of 1945, that would be FAR too late to matter given the political consequences of such a defeat.

Assuming that the Op. Martin plan worked as advertised, it would have inflicted >800,000 casualties on the Wallies (90% of which would be American); for comparison IOTL during the entire period from June 1944-May 1945 the US suffered about 552,000 casualties in Europe including the OTL BotB. So 145% of total US casualties for the worst part of the war for the US inflicted in a single battle. I don't know how the Wallies could even continue the war at that point, if not solely for the reason of public shock, political fallout, and demand for the return of the several hundred of thousand of PoWs that would result from this defeat. For comparison there were only 94,000 US PoWs in Europe from 1941-45 and a huge chunk of that was from OTL BotB.

Worth noting that, IOTL, support for a peace deal shot up to 40% of the populace as result of the battle:

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I think peace would depend upon how much public pressure can be brought to bare on the FDR Administration, what the Soviets do and, to a degree, what the final casualties are.
 

sillygoose

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Worth noting that, IOTL, support for a peace deal shot up to 40% of the populace as result of the battle:

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I think peace would depend upon how much public pressure can be brought to bare on the FDR Administration, what the Soviets do and, to a degree, what the final casualties are.
Very interesting. I think you're right that much would depend on public action and what happens with Stalin. IIRC IOTL the American public was pretty pissed Stalin stayed still until January 12th.
 

History Learner

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Then yes, I think you've successfully crafted a scenario for a late war, last second German victory. Even if FDR attempts to hold out against public demands for peace, the presence of a peace movement-combined with the crippling of his own offensive capabilities-would probably trigger Stalin's paranoia and cause him to seek an arrangement with the Germans since it will be clear they can draw upon the West further to compound the Soviet setbacks. Once Stalin makes his move, FDR will be left but no choice to cave and Churchill will follow suit by necessity.
 

sillygoose

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Then yes, I think you've successfully crafted a scenario for a late war, last second German victory. Even if FDR attempts to hold out against public demands for peace, the presence of a peace movement-combined with the crippling of his own offensive capabilities-would probably trigger Stalin's paranoia and cause him to seek an arrangement with the Germans since it will be clear they can draw upon the West further to compound the Soviet setbacks. Once Stalin makes his move, FDR will be left but no choice to cave and Churchill will follow suit by necessity.
Question is what the terms would be, would Hitler go for it, and what the fallout for everyone would be in the aftermath of said peace deal.
 

History Learner

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Question is what the terms would be, would Hitler go for it, and what the fallout for everyone would be in the aftermath of said peace deal.

The terms is a good question, although we do know the entire intention behind the offensive was to force the Anglo-Americans to the peace table. As for the fallout, politically I'd imagine there would not be much domestically if it was public pressure that forced it to happen.
 

sillygoose

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The terms is a good question, although we do know the entire intention behind the offensive was to force the Anglo-Americans to the peace table. As for the fallout, politically I'd imagine there would not be much domestically if it was public pressure that forced it to happen.
I was thinking more in terms of the Soviets. For the US and UK though I'd imagine the defeat would see more than a few heads roll. Churchill will probably be disgraced as would Monty and that would probably do a lot of damage internationally to the prestige of the US and UK. If Stalin's forces are beaten too then they may never get involved in the East either.
 

History Learner

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I was thinking more in terms of the Soviets. For the US and UK though I'd imagine the defeat would see more than a few heads roll. Churchill will probably be disgraced as would Monty and that would probably do a lot of damage internationally to the prestige of the US and UK. If Stalin's forces are beaten too then they may never get involved in the East either.

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If I had to take a guess, based off the ATL situation:
  • Hungary split into two, with the Danube as the dividing line.
  • Croatia retained as a German puppet state.
  • Slovakia ditto, but with Subcarpathian Ruthenia ceded to the Soviets.
  • Molotov-Ribbentrop borders in Poland.
  • Courland ceded to the Soviets, occupied portions of East Prussia returned to Germany.
  • Economic and Technological deals.
 

ATP

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At this point, Hitler's on so many drugs I doubt he even conscious of Germany situation.
Take him off drugs for 2 weeks (shoot Morell in the meantime) and he'll probably agree to the "small solution".

Not only drugs.Hitler mindset was simply not normal - for example,from beginning of war to 1945 he wasted his time to personally decide which german soldier with jewish ancestors should be keep in army,and which send to deathcamp.During entire war it was almost 20.000 cases - and Hitler really read all documents about them.
 

Sixgun McGurk

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It might have worked.

Hitler was swimming in a witches brew but FDR was submerged in a cauldron of his own, desperately ill and tapping on death's door on a plethora of highly experimental drugs for diabetes and poliomyelitis while slipping quite badly mentally. He was mostly lucid but he suffered frequent diabetic comas and periods of confusion. Sometimes he could be out of it for days, clearly unfit to serve. He was protected and the problem concealed from Congress and Vice President Truman by Chief of Staff George Marshall and his palace guard. They were running policy with Churchill around FDR and saw no reason to follow the law and turn over National Command Authority, maybe mess the grand plan up, as there were many with actual authority that had great reservations. This was much the same as a similar group did at a crucial phase of the aftermath of WW1 for Wilson, after his stroke if that's really what it was, a move that probably lead the world directly to WW2.

If the Germans had pulled off a last ditch operation Martin that could possibly extend the war in Europe to 1946, FDR would have been forced by political necessity to come out of his cocoon of protection and show himself in order to hold his party. If he had slipped, had a spell and Congress or Truman suspected how soft in the head he was getting, FDR would have been set aside as unfit and Harry S. Truman would have become acting president.

This could definitely have caused a policy change. Truman, a WW1 combat veteran that had been there and done that and got elected by veterans hated the idea of throwing men away. He had no love at all for the Soviets or their pawns infiltrating the west, a problem of which he was well aware. He had not been briefed on anything that wasn't in the newspapers by Marshall's Palace Guard and walked into the job absolutely cold in OTL, inheriting a policy and team that barely deigned to talk to him at all or do anything but present him with papers to sign for one fait accompli after another, a group that he couldn't rid himself of in victory.

George Marshall was also quite old, ill and within a few years of death, possibly losing the thread himself given his later failures in China and being propped up by his own staff. He was, according to Dean Atchenson, 'under performing like a four engine bomber on one engine.'

FDR, Marshall and Co. never had a problem showing their disdain for non-aristocrat outsider Truman, who with his Confederate roots had never been rich, had ties with the Pendergast Machine and had actually worked for a living. Truman got to his position by chance, hard work and with the support of the veterans of his old US Volunteer artillery unit, a politically powerful group in Missouri that held their former elected commander in very high regard.

The old-money group that had accreted itself around FDR would have been placed directly under Truman's thumb at a time when Truman could easily have chisled them free, replaced them and changed US policy.
 
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