History Myths and Misconceptions of History you Hate

Shipmaster Sane

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The Battle of Thermopylae is always portrayed in fiction as only 300 Spartan warriors who bravely defended the Hot Gates for days on end, killing thousands of Persians until finally being outflanked by the Persian armies.

While the bravery and valor shown by Leonidas and his Spartans shouldn't be forgotten, they weren't the only ones present at the battle. There were 2000 more Thespians, Thebans, and Helots who refused to retreat with the bulk of the Greek Army and stayed to fight alongside Leonidas. Hell, the battle itself was a massive failure that only stopped the Persians for a short period of time. Leonidas didn't watch his flanks and paid for it with defeat. Alongside that common misconception, Spartan soldiers didn't break rank to fight alone and they sure as hell didn't go into battle without armor. They weren't male strippers for gods sake!
You say common, but I actually cant name a source for these portrayals besides the one.
 
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I think it's just become so stereotypical that people forget that Thermopylae was fairly realistically covered in historiography, though in fairness, people have been complaining about the Thespians not getting their due for centuries.
 

Hlaalu Agent

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You say common, but I actually cant name a source for these portrayals besides the one.

You know if that is the case, I'd want to create another. But instead of male strippers, have them as Jojo characters and have them pose. That or as Baki characters.

I think it's just become so stereotypical that people forget that Thermopylae was fairly realistically covered in historiography, though in fairness, people have been complaining about the Thespians not getting their due for centuries.

They really aren't are they?
 
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Well, the Ballad of the Alamo boasts that "Thermopylae had her messenger of defeat, but the Alamo had none", but actually Thespiae had no messenger of defeat at Thermopylae, the Thespians fought to the last man and were all killed in their places. And they get remembered for their drama.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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Nicer than Stalin. Though Trotsky was too, and look what it got him. Some fine gentleman went to axe him a question...
Lennin was all for starving millions of people, he just never got the chance.


It’s sorta ironic that Russia’s attempts to subvert the West through academia and hollywood only really “bore fruit” decades after when Russia itself accepted or decided to use Capitalism

And said “fruit” hates Russia
The Soviet demoralization plan would have worked like a charm had not the soviets inevitably imploded. It's still the thing overwhelmingly fucking up our culture today, just think how bad things would have been with a few more decades of the reds funding hollywood and the left.

Pontius Pilate was sorta decent as I recall
Really when you get right down to it he went out of his way to help someone he had no reason to, and yet people remember him as a coward for doing more than anyone to help.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Really when you get right down to it he went out of his way to help someone he had no reason to, and yet people remember him as a coward for doing more than anyone to help.

No more of a coward than Peter The Apostle who would definitely have been tortured and/or executed had he admitted to the people saying he was who he was

Even if he did declare Jesus innocent, the Jews were being “braver” than usual in front of the Roman Occupation and insisting on it a lot. Don’t think he wanted to deal with the trouble brought about by them banding together, even if it’s not about Israeli Independence.
 

Shipmaster Sane

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No more of a coward than Peter The Apostle who would definitely have been tortured and/or executed had he admitted to the people saying he was who he was
Well thats kind of what he signed up for.

Even if he did declare Jesus innocent, the Jews were being “braver” than usual in front of the Roman Occupation and insisting on it a lot. Don’t think he wanted to deal with the trouble brought about by them banding together, even if it’s not about Israeli Independence.
I mean, he didn't actually condemn him, he just stopped protecting him after he ran out of excuses and tricks.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Well thats kind of what he signed up for.

I mean, he didn't actually condemn him, he just stopped protecting him after he ran out of excuses and tricks.

Expect a man to stand up for certain principles and honorable and holy promises in the face of death? People are flawed and weak, he chose to be better later

He did essentially say it was the Jews’ fault when he washed his hands in front of them

Say, did Jesus actually speak fluent Roman or Italian to Pontius?
 

Lanmandragon

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Expect a man to stand up for certain principles and honorable and holy promises in the face of death? People are flawed and weak, he chose to be better later

He did essentially say it was the Jews’ fault when he washed his hands in front of them

Say, did Jesus actually speak fluent Roman or Italian to Pontius?
Latin is what your thinking and i doubt it. Pilate likely spoke Aramaic(local language).
 

CarlManvers2019

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Latin is what your thinking and i doubt it. Pilate likely spoke Aramaic(local language).

I think Jesus suddenly speaking fluent Latin whilst Pilate tried speaking in the language of the locals’ more impressive

It’s like expecting some unwashed low intellect uneducated foreign commoner, only to get someone much smarter than he first appeared
 

Hlaalu Agent

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Yep he was killed later on for it and demanded an upside down cross. Because he didn't feel he was good enough to be killed like Christ.

Which always makes me laugh when I see the upside down cross being presented as Anti-Christian in media, or people wearing it around their necks. It is a symbol of Christian humility, kek.
 

CarlManvers2019

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Actual Satanism? Not really. Edgy kids who think turning cross upside down is rebellious as hell? Absolutely.

From what I know regarding Satanism, it’s really fucking complicated a religion that values a sort of “freedom” that looks to have frankly weird morals instead of simply Evil is Good and Good is Evil
 

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